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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2006 at 09:34
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Thank you very much for your understanding...

now on to the next subject of the day

GENESIS — Selling England By The Pound
Review by Nico2009

5 stars The first genesis album i heard. The album is great, i do often skip some tracks (like battle of epping forest), but other tracks are really great. My favorit is probably hacket because he really brings emotion into the songs. At first i found musical box a bit overwhelming but now i really enjoy the energy it gives! The drum at the end is nice.

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I just have to fully disagree on one statement of the review "i do often skip some tracks (like battle of epping forest)"...that is far from the most positive aspect you could recommend to people.

Besides of that,I find it weak,once more totally unchallenging for an album of the reviews sizes of SEBTP,disposable and....well...far from appropriate.

I could also mention that "The Musical Box" is not actually on SEBTP.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2006 at 09:37
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2006 at 09:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2006 at 10:18
Ok, it's true we talk of "short and sweet", but I don't think you can learn much about the album (besides that it's a masterpiece) from such a review:

YES — Relayer
Review by crumble_soul (Lucas)

5 stars The ultimate prog rock album. 'Gates Of Delirium' is a huge masterpiece from the beginning to the the ending which makes me dream ("Soon, Oh, Soon, The light..."). Nothing else to say. 1000000000000/5.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2006 at 11:25
Buddies, dealing with all (although I'm at work and a bit limited now). Confused
 
Rafaella, IMO he should approach some other person and ask for helping. Anyway, your offer is nice and friendly and I thank you on behalf of all of us! Star
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2006 at 11:27
Your're perfectly right. I would hate to embarrass him publicly, as he certainly doesn't deserve it. He loves music and his contribution to this website is precious, language problems notwithstanding.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2006 at 12:32
And what about this little beauty here?

PINK FLOYD — Wish You Were Here
Review by Jason (John Acosta)

5 stars THIS IS THE BEST WORK IN THE PROGRESSIVE HISTORY

Wish You Were Here is the most progressive work ,since SOYCD until SOYCD Part 2 is the best recorder of Mason,Wright,Gilmour and Waters

No doubt five stars

5.0/5.0 ESSENTIAL MASTERPIECE OF PROGRESSIVE MUSIC


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2006 at 16:43
Wow...this one is as nebulous as can be. 
 
PONTY, JEAN-LUC — Cosmic Messenger
Review by igledhillhornet

5 stars Improved and very retrospective of Ponty`s apprenticeship & courtship with (albeit briefly) Frank Zappa and The Mahavishnu Orchestra Jean Luc decides that it is time. To quoute Desiderata :

" Whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should."

It was time. Definitely time.

For Jean Luc.

Young Jean Luc.

To freak people out.

Stardate 1979. ( in Earth years, with reference to the mythological birth of a creature we universally accept as our saviourJesus Christ), it happened.

Screaming, yearning & desparate crying eminating from the threads of the strings of a meticuously amplified violin saved the day for fusion jazz on a wonderous album enrtitled Cosmic Messenger.

Tear drops pore down my face as I write these impossible words.

I require rest. I must retreat and be alone.

Enjoy, savour and relish my Earth friends. If this album doesn`t send you into orbit then you might need a few consultaion sessions with Steve Hawking.

 
And; really....does anyone care about this person's sex life?  Ermm
 

THE MOODY BLUES — Days Of Future Passed

Review by Sean Trane (Hugues Chantraine)
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3 stars This album is of definite historical significance as it was the first one to have MELLOTRONS , but also for its full-fledged orchestral arrangements and longer numbers. And I lost count of how many times I got laid in white satin sheets . So a lot of good memories but having re-listened to it after around twenty years , I must say that some passages are quite dated , and let's face it I play this when there are woman ready to fall into my arms - not meaning that I can't get laid without it , you wise arses! Anyway, of historical significance

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Edited by sbrushfan - June 22 2006 at 16:48
Some world views are spacious, and some are merely spaced...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2006 at 18:08
Little beauty is now a frog!
 
Cosmic messenger being handled wherever in the galaxy it is.
 
Tuesday afternoons' memories may be revisited, ahem?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2006 at 22:09

PINK FLOYD — Dark Side of the Moon

Review by cscrutinizer

3 stars This album was a huge commerical success. In fact, I have read that it is the best selling album of all time.

Commercial success doesn't mean it has artistic merit. I've heard this album so many times, it's not funny. But I decided to buy my own copy and revisit it, as I had not heard it in a while. With all the hubub of Pink Floyd members waking from slumber to tour and do solo albums, I decided this one deserved an

I don't think this is really progressive rock at all. The music is not diverse, adventerous, or interesting.

This is an iconic album, but compared to what obvious bands like Yes, Genesis, and King Crimson were doing at the time, it PALES in comparison. If you compare them to more obscure artists like Henry Cow, UZ, Gentle Giant or Magma, they just plain suck in comparison.

How can anyone give this 5 stars? Because it sold a lot of copies? If you give this 5 stars, what do you give Selling England By The Pound? 20 stars?!?

I would take Meddle or Wish You Were Here over DSOM any day, but in general, I think Pink Floyd are EXTREMELY overrated. They were mediocre enough to have mass appeal and sell millions of records and pack stadiums. Anyone can play the drums, keyboards, guitars, bass lines, etc. to any Pink Floyd song. There is not much that is creative, virtuosic, or even interesting about most of their work. The guitar solos are boring, blues-based rock. Nothing innovative. The keyboards are w**kery.

I know this is probably an unpopular view of this top selling record, but I am looking at it objectively, and not based on how many units it sold or how many people enjoyed getting stoned to this and the memories it invokes. Sentimentalities are one thing, but there is just no merit to this being "one of the greatest progressive rock records of all time". It simply is not.

Brittney Spears sells a lot of records too. Michael Jackson sold a lot of records too. Are they geniuses because of this? The guitar solos on Thriller are musically and technically better than what you hear on any Pink Floyd album.






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Barely anything on the music. Seems to be a rant against those who rate this record highly.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2006 at 07:31
^ It's ironic really, because when it was released it was considered innovative and special. Music can be commercially successful AND good. Just because an album sells millions does not automatically means that it is without merit. Also, sometimes it is necessary to consider the music in the context of its time when judging it; this is difficult to do if you were not around at the time.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2006 at 08:54
Even not liking, the reviewer cannot be cynical or a bit disrespectful toward the artist and other reviewers.
 
Also, I agree with Fitz, think how revolutionary were at their time artists like Louis Armstrong, Tom Jobim, Peter Gabriel, etc.
 
I believe that with some edits the DSOTM review may stay - for awhile only the rating is preserved. I'll try to contact the reviewer.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2006 at 23:51
I'd like to report this:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=81898

It's pretty huge, but scroll down to the review of Day Six and you'll pretty clearly see my complaint.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2006 at 00:05
Originally posted by dagrush dagrush wrote:

I'd like to report this:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=81898

It's pretty huge, but scroll down to the review of Day Six and you'll pretty clearly see my complaint.
 
Unless a better solution occurs later, the Day Six will be decorated with ***. Approve 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2006 at 14:00
I dont know about this one, it may just coincidentaly be the same person (enitials close) but it immedietly caught my eye. i was browsing amazon in hopes of purchasing the older of the Riverside albums when i came across the review from this site that help to "sell me" on the disc i was going to buy. The review is very well done but I dont feel it should be kept if it's not origional. well here it is
 

RIVERSIDE — Out Of Myself

Review by prla

5 stars Those who know me well acknowledge the fact that I'm a bit compulsive about the things I like. I have to admit I am that way to some extent. Some things I can't just casually enjoy, I get almost fanatical about them. Fortunately, that's only the case with a few selects things. Another thing that's part of my character, is a strong inclination towards the unconventional, that which hadn't been done yet or that which is extremely original and heartfelt. Right now, I can tell you of at least one band that fits all these bills: RIVERSIDE.

"Out of Myself", RIVERSIDE's debut album, is a concept album about one finding inner peace, understanding of himself and the surrounding world. According to the band's vocalist and bassist, Mariusz Duda, this is the first part of a trilogy dealing with the aforementioned subjects and, let me tell you, if the next two pieces are on par with this one, then I can't wait for them and this trilogy will become a huge classic.

I wouldn't say RIVERSIDE are strictly a progressive band but they surely approach it in a very strong manner. So much so that this album can clearly appeal to 70's progressive rock lovers. The closest they come to being really progressive is right on the first track, "The Same River", an ambitious 12 minute piece which goes through different moods and emotions, always showing a band that's unbelievably tight for a debut, aswell as instrumentally superior. Take for instance, right after the first section of the song, how ethereal the guitar that enters the scene at 04:40 really is. Piotr Kozieradzki's drum work is always precise yet rather complex and Michal Lapaj's keyboards provide a sweet backdrop to the song (and the rest of the album too).

Throughout the record, the idea I got is that RIVERSIDE are the perfect cross between PORCUPINE TREE (in the sense of ever present surprises and unexpected turns in their songs) and OPETH (especially with their "Damnation" album). In fact, Duda's vocals reminded me more than once of Mikael Akerfeldt's clean vocals. Also thrown in for good measure are some PINK FLOYD influences.

Speaking of Duda's vocals, rarely I listened to someone sing with such warmth and feeling. Take for example "I Believe", "Loose Heart" and especially "In Two Minds" which starts with a telephone-like sort of whispered and echoed voice (another PORCUPINE TREE trademark and possible influence) and then becomes crystal clear. This song's arrangement blew me away. This is top notch composition, as far as I'm concerned and Duda's vocals always give me goosebumps. Piotr Grudzinski's guitar work is also amazing and perfectly balanced.

"The Curtain Falls" is a more experimental tune, yet rather good, and "Ok" basically gives Duda singing softly over a sort of trip hop-ish backdrop. Interspersed within the album, are also two moody pieces "Reality Dream I" and "Reality Dream II" which serve the concept purpose of the album making use of interesting samples - the sound of a phone call producing a dial error, an alarm clock going off, a clock ticking. Both are probably the heaviest numbers on the album showing the metal side of the band. I suggest you check the section in "Reality Dream I" from 03:58 to 04:51 for the ultimate demonstration of what this band is instrumentally capable of, in particular the odd time signatures produced by Kozieradzki and of course Grudzinski's guitar work. The whole of "In Two Minds" show just how good Duda is as a singer.

The production is top notch and that's a relief because it would be a shame if such a truly beautiful piece of work got ruined by it. The worldwide release of "Out of Myself" features cover art designed by Travis Smith (of OPETH and ANATHEMA fame) which pretty much suits the underlying concept.

My compulsiveness towards the things I like may sometimes be a problem, but bear with me on this one. Usually when a band debuts with such a great album it either disbands immediately (CYNIC comes to mind) or is destined to great things. I sense RIVERSIDE are on the latter group. I just hope they get that little bit of luck everyone needs to succeed, because the talent, the emotion, the technique, the ability... well, it's all there. Saint-Exupery once said that "perfection is not achieved when there's nothing more to add but rather when there's nothing more to take away". While I don't claim "Out of Myself" to be perfect (despite the hands-down 5 star rating) it certainly comes very close to fitting that phrase.

You want to have this album. Don't say I didn't warn you.

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 I like the review but didnt know if it should be allowed due to the "copy and paste" nature of it. I hope it's not a copycat but you never know. heres the link to AMAZON
to see the other review. like i said they're identical. (second review down)  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002VEONQ/qid=1151258296/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-4881464-5100833?s=music&v=glance&n=5174
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2006 at 19:34
Just handling, mikey... and thanks!
 
EDIT: same person! Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2006 at 06:30
QUESTION: do we consider factual inaccuracies to cause a review to be inappropriate? Take the following as a test case .......


PINK FLOYD Animals progressive rock album and reviews Psychedelic/Space Rock
(Studio Album, 1977)
Avg: 4.48/5
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PINK FLOYD — Animals
Review by scottiebass2112

4 stars Possibly the LAST "REAL" FLOYD ALBUM..

I say this because after this release, keyboardist Richard Wright was fired from the group,

[he was fired after recording The Wall]

but still played on "The Wall" and toured for that album technically as a "hired sideman". Also, "The Wall" involved heavy feuding between Gilmore

[spelling: Gilmour]

and Waters, thus making the recording similar to the Beatles "White Album", where Lennon and McCartney did their work as seperate as possible. As for "Final Cut", that was basically a Waters solo album, with minimal contributions by Gilmore, and plenty of "outside" musicians to fill in the rest...

(..now back to this review..) "Animals" was recorded during the later 70's, when original Prog. was in it's "beginning-of-the-end" phase. Punk rock was gaining momentum in it's hatred for fine-musicianship and long epics, so this Floyd release was the final gasp of their "collaborative" era..

"Pigs on the Wing..(pts. 1 & 2)" bookend the album with a "love song" (according to Waters) because he didn't want the album to be completely "angry", since it deals with an "Orwellian" theme.

"Dogs" is my favorite because of a very meaningful guitar solo (after the section where various barks fill the background of an acoustic piece by Gilmore). This song (17 min. plus) deals with the businessman and his shortcomings..

"Pigs" entails the rulers of society, Waters angrily attacking everybody from Margaret Thatcher to the Whitehouse (..remember, Carter was president then..

[LOL Waters' rant was about Mary Whitehouse, the British 'clean-up TV' campaigner]

, so thanks Roger!!). Again, Gilmore's solo is amazing since he skillfully uses a wah-pedal to imitate pig grunts and squeals..

"Sheep" is started with a neat Fender Rhodes solo by Wright, then burst into the meat of the song with Waters angry vocals decrying the "sheep" of society who stand idly by, moving with the rest of the herd towards eventual slaughter..

If you can locate it, there's a wesite devoted to this album with extra pictures, live photos from the tour (featuring extra guitarist Snowy White"), and an interesting story about how the "flying pig" on the cover broke loose and floated away, causing an air-traffic dilemma and finally being shot-down in a field.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2006 at 08:21
^ simple errors to be corrected

ZAPPA, FRANK — Joe's Garage, Acts I, II & III
Review by david

3 stars Worth buying for the guitar work alone - Watermelon in Easter Hay plus some intricate passages remind me of the great man who released Hot Rats,the Grand Wazoo and Shut up and play your guitar. The album's very dated and should not be played to anyone who is easily upset.


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50 words by the hair,still I think this should go. Thumbs Down


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2006 at 08:22
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@ Joolz: not deletable but "editable"...
 
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