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this guy:

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Whatever. I'm just telling what I've heard from the people who lived then(I've lived in Russia 4 times than I lived outside), and some his political desisions/actions on official level were quite impressive. Read Churchill's descriptions of him, he admired Stalin as a person. You see, you get your stuff from History Channel, I get it first hand. He murdered not because of racism but because of need for manpower... And they did kick Hitler's butt after all.
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Miracle, he killed 40'000,000 but not for manpower only, he commited millions of political murders, and that's a fact not only mentioned by the History Chanell, but by every history book.
 
Jews were massacred in Georgia where anti Semitism was almost a way of life.
 
He kicked Hitler's butt but USA and England made heir part, the difference is that USA and GB kept a democratic Goverment while Stalin became a mass murder as bad as Hitler.
 
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Miracle's entitled. After all, I meet people who think Bush has been good for the US. Confused
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^I am yet to meet one.

Anyway... let's just say I was kidding.

But come on, no one's as bad as hitler. At least the USSR didn't have such counrty-wide racist polilcesDisapprove
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Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

Miracle's entitled. After all, I meet people who think Bush has been good for the US. Confused
what is it about 30% of americans now?  As a republican I supported Bush at first, but that support has passed.  Most of my friends still support Bush though, they're definitely not outspoken about it though.
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

^I am yet to meet one.

Anyway... let's just say I was kidding.

But come on, no one's as bad as hitler. At least the USSR didn't have such counrty-wide racist polilcesDisapprove


 
You are right, nobody was as bad as Hitler if there's a way to rate how bad a Government or a Dictator is.
 
Numbers? I refuse to value  human lifes in statistics, one life lost is bad enough.
 
Motives? One was a criminal racist searching for world supremacy, the other one was a criminal dictator thirsty for power and searching for....oh what a coincidence, world supremacy Confused
 
A criminal is a criminal, maybe one (Hitler) was a Genocide and Stalin was just a mass murderer (Genocide is related with the extermination of a determined ethnic group, not for the number of victims as most people beleive -Penal Law 101-) but both were bad in their own way and I believe Stalin was not 100% free of the racist component.
 
If you were a Jewish in Berlin during Hitler's time or in Georgia during Stalin's Government you were equally dead.
 
Both are bad in different ways.
 
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Well, Genghis Khan is arguably worse thasn Hitler or Stalin, he killed i think 1/3 of the worlds population, or close to that.
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Gulag...say it with me now.
Draw it out nice and slow.
Guuuuuuuuulag.
Now say it like Chekov. "Gulag sighted, Captain." Now say "Nuclear Wessels". LOL
Now say "concentration camps".
I can sympathize with the Jews but then I think of outspoken intellectuals and it gets a little more personal...
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Does one need ask?
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

My avatar is my hero.
 
 
I knew several heroes (including my father)... common people trying to have a life, to raise their children, to let something positive for others, etc. they weren't famous but I salute them all. 


It bothers me that it's so stretched...Embarrassed

Try this:



http://i5.tinypic.com/124bq1e.jpg

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Already changed. Thanks! Wink
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Originally posted by imoeng imoeng wrote:

^ yeah, Eric Cartman, umm, just to make sure, you were talking about South Park werent you?? Respect ma Authorita!!

Correctomundo!
100% correct,except its Respect mah Authoritah!

    
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^ but meehhhhh, im seriously... hahahahah
 
To Atkingani: You avatar looks really good, it fits now, heheheh... Clap


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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

the men on my chopper crew in Desert Storm.

Probably hard for anyone to top that.
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< Bob Dylan, my hero.
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Bob Dylan = Cool
 
You should read his book 'Tarantula', it's very intresting but dificult. It's one big poem in a book.
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By the way,this thread asks "who are your heroes?" It doesnt say name some heroes that will be unacceptable to everyone else.

Mind you,Stalin and Ghengis Khan are bizarre choices...
    

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OK, let's focus on real heroes: Asterix and Obelix Big smile !
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