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imoeng
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Topic: Jimi Hendrix Posted: June 06 2006 at 20:03 |
This has been my no1, well, yeah, no2 question i wanted to ask... Why everyone (most people) thinks that Jimi Hendrix is the best guitarist ever..??
Of course I know he was the leading guitarist at the time, who brought guitar world to the next level, influenced many guitarists..
However, in terms of technical skills, songwriting and creativity, and stuff, he was not the best... So, what is your opinion??
oh, this thread is not offend anyone even Jimi Hendrix himself...
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: June 06 2006 at 21:13 |
I think much of his hype is because of his early death, and to many people he was more of a guitarist, he was a role model, and people let that influence how they view his music.
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Posted: June 06 2006 at 21:23 |
Hendrix was a great guitarist, better than most guitarists in the world. But I don't know if he's THE best.
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Teaflax
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Posted: June 06 2006 at 21:29 |
If you consider the evolution of electric guitar playing as a step
curve, where each groundbreaking guitarist kicks the step up a notch
further than it was set before, I think there's a case to be made for
the biggest of those steps being the one created by Hendrix.
He may in many ways be outpaced and outshined by a great many
guitarists that have come along after him, but not only do they
inevitably build on his legacy, but I don't think any individual
guitarist I can think of right now - except maybe for Robert Fripp -
has created quite as huge a step on that there curve.
Edited by Teaflax - June 06 2006 at 21:29
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soundsweird
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Posted: June 06 2006 at 23:47 |
It's nice knowing that I'm not the only one who would leave Jimi out of a "Ten Best Guitarists of All Time" list; he just didn't have the time to amass the kind of discography it takes to be considered. On the other hand, I agree that he took rock guitar playing to a new level (I saw him on his first tour, with Soft Machine opening; both acts produced a huge wall of noise). One of my old college music professors just idolized Hendrix; his 70's Boston-area rock band Tracks had a long tribute to Jimi on one of their albums. Interesting tidbit: Hendrix had planned on a collaboration with progressive electronic composer Bo Hansson ("Lord of the Rings"), but he died before it happened.
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Empathy
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 01:47 |
Teaflax wrote:
If you consider the evolution of electric guitar playing as a step curve, where each groundbreaking guitarist kicks the step up a notch further than it was set before, I think there's a case to be made for the biggest of those steps being the one created by Hendrix.
He may in many ways be outpaced and outshined by a great many guitarists that have come along after him, but not only do they inevitably build on his legacy, but I don't think any individual guitarist I can think of right now - except maybe for Robert Fripp - has created quite as huge a step on that there curve.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 10:55 |
I think Teaflax is correct regarding Hendrix, he revolutionized guitar playing like no one else.
He deserves the title "The Greatest" but not "The Best"
Edited by RycheMan - June 07 2006 at 13:26
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 13:46 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
I think much of his hype is because of his early death, and to many people he was more of a guitarist, he was a role model, and people let that influence how they view his music. | Yes, definitly the early death thing...
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Minkia
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Posted: June 07 2006 at 16:06 |
Hendrix was an innovator and was a great all-rounder, in that not only did he write great highly influential music, but he also wrote great lyrics, which is more than can be said for the majority of guitar wizards out there. Besides, all other guitarists have outlived him and we don't know where he would have taken his music to, had he lived. Just think: Hendrix's career was very short-lived but in such a short space he completely started new styles. Technically speaking, have you ever seen/heard live footage of Hendrix playing guitar? Just check out his playing on the Woodstock festival (the added extra footage, not the usual Purple Haze or Star SpanKed Banner bollocks) or Machine Gun on The Band Of Gypsys live album for sheer fluidity?
Speaking strictly in progressive rock terms, Hendrix cannot be placed in such category as he had not yet touched classical music influences - I mean, he died at 27, so who knows whether he'd have taken a direction like McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Fripp, etc who were all blown away when they saw him perform live.
The guy deserves his credit.
Edited by Minkia - June 07 2006 at 16:07
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Posted: June 08 2006 at 10:31 |
Jimi's greatness lies not in his technical abilities. Malmsteen could
blow him out of the water in the speed department. His greatness is in
his tone and phrasing. These are fairly subtle aspects to guitar, but
also the most difficult to do well. I don't know if I would call him
the best ever, as I haven't heard every guitarist, but he was certainly
one of the greats. As for his songwriting...eh it was ok.
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YYZed
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Posted: June 08 2006 at 17:17 |
Hendrix's early death really didn't give him much time to develop. He was leaning almost in a proggish direction towards the end.
His influence is unmatched, his playing is not.
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The Wizard
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Posted: June 08 2006 at 20:58 |
YYZed wrote:
Hendrix's early death really didn't give him much time to develop. He was leaning almost in a proggish direction towards the end.
His influence is unmatched, his playing is not.
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Yes, he brought the guitar to an unmatched sonic level.
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Posted: June 08 2006 at 22:05 |
Teaflax wrote:
If you consider the evolution of electric guitar playing as a step
curve, where each groundbreaking guitarist kicks the step up a notch
further than it was set before, I think there's a case to be made for
the biggest of those steps being the one created by Hendrix.
He may in many ways be outpaced and outshined by a great many
guitarists that have come along after him, but not only do they
inevitably build on his legacy, but I don't think any individual
guitarist I can think of right now - except maybe for Robert Fripp -
has created quite as huge a step on that there curve.
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Yes, I too have to quote Teaflax. You hit the nail on the head. There were actually quite a few around him that were incredible (Clapton, Beck, and you could even make a case for Les Paul), but Hendrix broke it wide open.
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Hierophant
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Posted: June 08 2006 at 23:49 |
bhikkhu wrote:
Teaflax wrote:
If you consider the evolution of electric guitar playing as a step
curve, where each groundbreaking guitarist kicks the step up a notch
further than it was set before, I think there's a case to be made for
the biggest of those steps being the one created by Hendrix.
He may in many ways be outpaced and outshined by a great many
guitarists that have come along after him, but not only do they
inevitably build on his legacy, but I don't think any individual
guitarist I can think of right now - except maybe for Robert Fripp -
has created quite as huge a step on that there curve.
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Yes, I too have to quote Teaflax. You hit the nail on the head.
There were actually quite a few around him that were incredible
(Clapton, Beck, and you could even make a case for Les Paul), but
Hendrix broke it wide open. |
Agreed
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Philéas
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Posted: June 14 2006 at 23:18 |
Everything that could be said has been said. I also agree with Teaflax.
An interesting thing to note is how the guitarsts of today are obsessed
with speed and technical ability. Today, that's what people look at
when they decide on who's the best guitarist in their opinions.
However, just as Teaflax said, one has to consider the influence the
guitarist has had on music. People tend to forget that rock music
probably wouldn't sound like it does today if Hendrix had not
revolutionized guitarplaying the way he did back in the 60's. Because
back then, people saw Hendrix the way we see people like Steve Vai or
John Petrucci today. And as guitarplaying evolves, it is possible that
they too won't be as highly regarded in 35 years.
One thing about Hendrix that people tend to forget is that he actually
was a talented songwriter. People who only have heard songs like Purple
Haze or Little Wing tend to dismiss his lyrics as weird. But those two
songs represent a minority of all the material he's written. There are
more than a few gems of songwriting within Hendrix's catalog, and if he
hadn't died such a sudden and unfortunate death, he probably would have
developed greatly as a songwriter over the years.
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Empathy
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Posted: June 14 2006 at 23:35 |
I always wonder where Jimi would have gone next if he had lived. Can you imagine if he had formed a band with Bootsy Collins? Would that not have been the trippiest, funkiest, mind-melting-liest thing you've ever heard?
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Philéas
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 00:39 |
Empathy wrote:
Can you imagine if he had formed a band with
Bootsy Collins? Would that not have been the trippiest, funkiest,
mind-melting-liest thing you've ever heard?
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Wow. That would sure be something. They'd probably have turned out some really awesome stuff...
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