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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 16:48
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

migrane(sp) What's more, your intellect can see? (not a question, but worded like a statement)That is a very special type of intellect you possess, I believe you ought to see a doctor about that. (comma splice)

Of course, I am very much aware that the wax melted Icarus' feathers; but, as you quite correctly said: such a design could ever work! (By omitting my preceding "not that," you have changed the meaning to indicate the design actually would work. Be careful with quoting. You can reword a quote to retain the original meaning in this fashion: "such a design could (never) work." (The brackets indicate where you have modified or added to the original for clarity in the context of your sentence.)

What's a "quotaion," anyhow? Wink

Is that better, oh diligent one?
 
It's the "next time!" (Please see above.)
 
I believe that is enough of our selfish thread hijacking for the nonce, little lizard!
 
(Can you not see that you are obviously hopelessly outclassed in matters grammatical and pedantic, and ever doomed to fall in ignominious defeat? Get out while you still have even the smallest shred of dignity to cling to, son!)Stern Smile
 
 


Edited by Peter Rideout - June 06 2006 at 16:51
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:02
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Of course, it wasn't a question of the speed of Icarus's wings (not that such a design could ever work), as it was the surface area, and more specifically a sudden lack of feathers. He was doing fine, until the wax melted, and he lost too many of them.


Your memory is full of those seqoias (sp) again, Peter.  You (double space) were the one that said "ever", (Again, punctuation always goes inside the quotation marks.) so I was just re-quoting what you said yourself. (redundant)

Anyhow, (the story of) Icarus is just a fable, so I am not exactly incorrect with what I say and neither are you, of course.

Have fun my friend, it (comma splice) has been fun!

Until the next time.
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Edited by Peter Rideout - June 06 2006 at 17:04
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:25
Oh but Peter, I won't give up; because one learns from their mistakes, dear fellow!

Oh and dad, I'm not your son!

I am not hopelessly outclassed - that is just your ego working overtime - but I am, however, slightly outclassed.

Oh oh oh, you have a comma before an "and," that's old hat, old chap!  Yes, for a 19th century writer, a comma before an "and" was used, however today, well... they're not used as much any more.  An "and" is a conjunction in its own right, so a comma is defunct (in the majority of cases).

So, therefore, do be consistent and either use commas before "and" or none at all.

But I see you are correct to use it, if your sentence after the "and," was an afterthought.

So you don't have to re-write it, however I wouldn't write too many "loose sentences".

The same also applies for a comma before "but."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:29
Maybe I should retitle this thread "criticize the gramatical errors of other members".

"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:32
Good idea Tlossy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:35
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Got some stuff in the mail today (and I bought a cd as well):
 
Fish- Raingods with Zippos
Fish- Return to Childhood
Kayo Dot- Choirs of the Eye
Klaus Schulze- Timewind
 
Cool

Brilliant post! ClapClapClapClapClap

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 17:36
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Got some stuff in the mail today (and I bought a cd as well):
 
Fish- Raingods with Zippos
Fish- Return to Childhood
Kayo Dot- Choirs of the Eye
Klaus Schulze- Timewind
 
Cool

Brilliant post! ClapClapClapClapClap

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What post?Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 19:35
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Oh but Peter, I won't give up; because one learns from their mistakes, dear fellow!

Oh and dad, I'm not your son!

I am not hopelessly outclassed - that is just your ego working overtime - but I am, however, slightly outclassed.

Oh oh oh, you have a comma before an "and," that's old hat, old chap!  Yes, for a 19th century writer, a comma before an "and" was used, however today, well... they're not used as much any more.  An "and" is a conjunction in its own right, so a comma is defunct (in the majority of cases).

So, therefore, do be consistent and either use commas before "and" or none at all.

But I see you are correct to use it, if your sentence after the "and," was an afterthought.

So you don't have to re-write it, however I wouldn't write too many "loose sentences".

The same also applies for a comma before "but."

Wink
 
As with "mom," "mother," "father," and so on, when the pronoun "dad" is used as a name substitute (as you did) it should be capitalized, but not when it is merely generic. Thus we get: "Mom, is Dad home?" and "I'm going home to kill my dad."
 
The use here of "son" is not literal, but informal and conversational. Rather than the usual familial relationship, the word here serves to indicate a significant disparity in ages, as well, perhaps, as a modicum of (grudging) affection.
 
Pronoun agreement: "one" is singular, but "their" is plural. You could have used "one" and "his" (but to be non-sexist, "his or her" would be better), or "I" and "my," etc.
 
You are technically correct, but a comma in front of "and" is optional in such cases as above. Granted, it does not belong in a short list, as such: "I like rock, prog and jazz." It can be used, however, when the sentence continues for a "significant" length (this length is unspecified) past the "and," as in: "I started up my bike, and then went for a nice, long ride on one of the many dirt roads in my area."
 
No such sweeping choice is needed (see above). The comma can still provide a wanted pause, and/or enhance clarity.
 
ShockedThere's that old error, again! Punctuation always goes inside the quotation marks! Pay attention, young man!Stern Smile
 
 
 
Anyway, let's stop this, okay? I'm bored with it (as, I'm sure, are others), and I'm not at work now!
 
It's time to go make some homemade "mac & cheese," feed my kids, then go for another ride!
 
SmileTTYL! ( < Internet "shorthand" does not require periods between those letters!)Wink
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Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 19:46
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 
Anyway, let's stop this, okay? I'm bored with it (as, I'm sure, are others), and I'm not at work now!
 
It's time to go make some homemade "mac & cheese," feed my kids, then go for another ride!
 
SmileTTYL! ( < Internet "shorthand" does not require periods between those letters!)Wink


Not a problem, that's fine by me.

I only missed the one punctuation error.

"P.S." isn't Internet shorthand, but of course, "TTYL" is.  I do not particularly like to use Internet "shorthand" anyhow.

Indeed, enough of this tomfoolery!

Kids!  Kids!  They're children, Peter, not kids!

Anyhow... have a fun and interesting evening talking about me to your family! Wink

P.S. I was always taught to use a double space after a full stop; neither way is incorrect, however the single space seems to be the modern and accepted way.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 20:02
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 
 
 
It's time to go make some homemade "mac & cheese," feed my kids, then go for another ride!
 
 



Kids!  Kids!  They're children, Peter, not kids!

Anyhow... have a fun and interesting evening talking about me to your family! Wink

 
No, I actually raise goats (and they eat very well)! Stern Smile
 
My son and daughter, however, are out defecating on the lawn, and eating my wife's flowers and decorative shrubs.... (I spoil them, I admit!)
 
 
No, I won't talk about you to my family. When I mention students at all, I only use the total losers or obvious winners to serve as my object lessons.Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 20:20
Can we stop the grammar critique here.  This is the thread to post nominations for post of the year, not post nominations for worst usage.

"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 20:21
We're done, Tlossy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 20:22
I'll see if that's true when Rideout comes back.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 20:40
Still don't know what post you're talking about, Blue!Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 20:42
The previous James-Peter exchange is the most Geek conversation I've ever seen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 23:32
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

I'll see if that's true when Rideout comes back.
Indeed!
 
Embarrassed Sorry for the highjack (but it was by mutual consent of those involvedWink)!
 
 
Confused!
 
Back on topic, I nominate, of course, my ol' forum comrade Major-General (Ret) Jimberly Piccolo Thunderbutt-VonGarten VI (Mrs) for post of the year.
 
Go ahead -- pick just about any one: he's had some right crackers, and has a great, self-deprecating (and that's as well!) sense of humour. Clap
 
As an unexpected bonus, he speaks rather good English (for a chain-smoking, wheezing, dancing English transexual), and knows how to flounce a feather boa with rare, nay --  inimitable -- elan.Shocked
 
Hoo-rah for damp dry English halfwits wit!Big smile
 
 
Now, can someone please find something funny he posted? (I'm too incompet lazy tired to bother do so myself.) Smile
 
Ermm(I'll pick "funny" over "deep, ponderous and kinda scary" any day here, for a mood boost!)Wink
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I mean funny on purpose!Stern Smile 


Edited by Peter Rideout - June 06 2006 at 23:38
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2006 at 23:36
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

I mean funny on purpose!Stern Smile 
 
People will be searching the forum for weeks...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2006 at 02:33
Tlossy, sorry to bring this up...

Peter, you are correct in what you say, re: punctuation always goes inside the quotation marks.

However, being that I am British, we actually use a different system.  We always put our punctuation after the quotation marks.

e.g. "the cat sat on the mat," is American English, whilst "the cat sat on the mat", is British English.

The exception to this, of course, is if the quote in question is quoting a reference which includes punctuation.

So, therefore, I am correct with my punctuation usage and I shall stick to this method.

This thread can now be used for its proper purpose.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2006 at 03:43
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Peter - Gosh, such praise ; so, no pressure in the future, then! All I have to do is ensure all future postings are witty, self deprecating, and definitely grammatically correct.

Jeez, one grammar pedant was bad enough; at least he's senile, older than me and several thousand miles away, but two? This new'un is a mere slip of a lad, with a beard which makes mine look like a scraggy mirkin, and he lives a mere 100 miles away from me...

I shall need to be careful.

Incidentally, Geck0 - after that exchange with Peter, I shall no longer check your posts for spelling errors; you don't scare me, I just don't understand what you say, and I was always told not to enter a battle of wits if you're unarmed

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