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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 03:54 | |
Re the "duplicated" review SBF,
If you check the permanent link number, you'll see it is identical for both reviews. As Guigo says, it is a bug in the system.
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Ricochet
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 04:11 | |
I see I am lately the top unappropriate here... And this time I've really explained very clear and very coeherant,through points (I,II,III,IV,V) what is wrong about this album...
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Trickster F.
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 04:26 | |
He probably has meant to report the review above Rico's...
RICK WAKEMAN — Black Knights at the Court of Ferdinand IVReview by mauro_re_garbagnatiWell, I listened to the music of this album and really get confused from the excellent reviews I read... This is a poor album, recorded with a Neapolitan artist really unknown, with a Neapolitan kind of music that is really really miles away from the prog rock genre. Said this, I must admit I hate the Neapolitan genre of music, so maybe someone else can love it... not I! Posted Tuesday, December 27, 2005, 09:02 EST | Permanent link That's the only explanation that comes to my mind.
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Ricochet
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 04:28 | |
Possibly,but I have another hunch...
until I posted my two stars review,Black Knights was among the top albums,having a considerable high rating.With my review added,I eliminated Black Knights from the top.Now I have no idea how much sbrushfan loves Rick Wakeman,still...I don't know...I really don't know... P.S.: the mauro review is,in my opinion,below the standard. |
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Raff
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 04:55 | |
It is indeed. Badly written in English (nothing new here, I'm afraid) and containing some incorrect remarks. What's "Neapolitan music", for one thing? Naples is possibly the music capital in Italy as far as tradition is concerned, but there isn't only one style of "Neapolitan" music. Then, it is not true that it is "miles away from prog" - has that guy never heard of Osanna?
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Ricochet
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 05:00 | |
you seem to now many about "neapolitan" music,Ghost Rider
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Raff
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 05:08 | |
I am Italian, from Rome, and I know quite a bit about Neapolitan music because it's part of our cultural heritage (whose diffusion is part of my job) .
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Ricochet
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 05:10 | |
Well,an entry in "Black Knights" or "Stella Bianca" would be of great value. |
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Trickster F.
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 07:33 | |
SYMPHONY X — The Odyssey
Review by nisandzic This is good power metal album, highly driven by Iron Maiden's influence but that is all that can be said. Rhytms and vocals are too monotone, its solid and strong sound is enugh to put this as good power metal album, but I stil think that Symphony X are not progressive metal band, or they may be, but very weak prog musicians then. Symphonic elements are just not enough to me.Keyboards do not make some music progressive. Riffs are, in my opinion driven by Pantera, vocals by Iron Maiden, keyboards by various symphonic artists. This is good to hear, but it does not make effect to my vision of progressive metal. Posted Friday, June 02, 2006, 07:23 EST | Permanent link |
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sbrushfan
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 07 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1177 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 10:31 | |
Ricochet...my bone of contention is not you or Rick Wakeman. It's simply that the review makes no sense. It's not at all easy to read, and and at times, it seems less like a review and more like a blosh of words. Points are fine...people like me, FloydWright and Easy Livin do that all the time. What does it all mean?
Don't you dare put me in the same box with all the RW fanboys/haters! I don't care for him either way, for or against. Edited by sbrushfan - June 02 2006 at 14:49 |
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Raff
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 11:01 | |
I don't know whether this has been already reported. I found it quite by chance, as I am listening to the album in question and was curious to see its reviews before writing one of my own. Anyway, here's our friend Mandy at it again! I can hardly make out what he means, besides that he wasn't very impressed by the album (which is magnificent; IMHO):
TRAFFIC — On The RoadReview by MANDRAKEROOT (Andrea Salvador) TRAFFIC ON THE ROADI joke with the title because I cannot do other. That disc... Tedious and (almost) nothing more. I say it clear: this disc is not a big live album, to difference of a lot other gone out in that I make sentences. In fact the medley "Glad/ Freedom Rider" is too long (same lack of "Low Spark Of The High-Heeled Boys") until me bother every time that the listening. A little better one "Tragic Magic" and "(Sometimes I feel So) Uninspired". The greater lack that I found is what this disc stinks too of Soul Music. The what also it could please. Nevertheless it gives back too heavy the result. It results, so, a disc heavy, comprehensible black and little too much. Erred. Erred for the result, because the idea it was good. For always yours, Mandrak |
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sbrushfan
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 07 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1177 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 14:47 | |
Well, why is this record 4 stars? S/he doesn't say anything about content, style or presenatation.
ELOY — Time To Turn
Review by b_olariu One of the best Eloy, and maybe from '80. After The Wall, when Pink Floyd kick the buckett, this band keep the flag high in prog music. A mid tempo prog music and a good damn one. From 1975 till this one they released almost masterpieces in this genre. I can not choose an album or two because in that period they were at the top in prog. Just my opinion. The tracks that are super smooth and inventive in the same time are End of an odyssey and the flash. 4 stars. |
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Ricochet
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 15:47 | |
Must say,sbrushfan,that I hardly understand your point of view. "Points are fine",but "the review makes no sense"? About easy to read,I have said already: I don't do reviews for the casual reader. About the blosh of words,you clearly mistake them for an argument. I am merely explaining my toughts! Anyway,I don't see not even the "blosh of words" (the developement of an idea,that is) as against the policy. What does the review mean.Simple.What I've said in the actual review.Black Knights At The Court Of Ferdinand IV is weak because (I) the neapolitan style doesn't suite Wakeman (II) the album is not more special than its previous,who are sheer mockery (III) Rick's new age (still) stinks. (IV) you have to be totally in a mood to listen to it;not a positive factor (V) quality unsatisfying. ???!!! what does it mean ????!!! --------- At first I thought that it's no big deal,but suddenly I see myself reflecting the non-sense of Prog Archives through my review.I am hardly the best in reviewing,but I do everything with passion,I do everything with the English-Romanian dictionary as guidance,I do everything with an afinity and a reasonable understanding towards the album and its message.But no....all of a sudden,in almost two consecutive review,I find complaining about doing things wrong...And now it's really getting touchy.Cause it's to already have 120 reviews (not that I'm bragging,don't judge me wrong) and succesfully applied for a mere honorific title of prog reviewer.In all my reviews,I basically focus on the same thing.More than that,my almost last 50 reviews are very similar in approach and presentation!!!All of the sudden,I'm nonsense-boy?! I'm very confused and (in this case) a little frustrated (to be absolutely sincere - just a little though),because this Wakeman review is amongst my most simple reviews I made in quite a time.Even I am surprised how simple I've summed up the main flaws.I find absolutely no reason for non-sense,for extra-packaging-words et caetera et caetera et caetera. More than that,I have to point out once more that the fact that it's not easy-reading or it's not on someone personal taste are not issues of inappropriate.I have stayed exactly in the range of explaining what's the album about.I have perfectly (my opinion) justified my 2 stars rating,I have presented the main aspects that the ones interested will find in it.What is inappropriate in that,I ask? In such cases,when my most easy explanations of an album get a place between too-short,impetuos,insulting,incomplete reviews, I wonder what will happen to albums in which I put even more effort and passion and write something more complex...I truly wonder...I am truly shocked to find myself,all of the sudden,as the main reviewer of unintelligable,of flowery style et caetera et caetera et caetera. If I'm truly deplorable,I wish I would have been noticed about this long before I expanded my view to almost 20 prog bands or was nominated as a Prog Reviewer.Title is,again I say,honorific for me,still I don't believe any nonsense-boys have every been chosen as Prog Reviewers. If not,I would desire a more firm "accusation" of being unappropriate. As moral,consecutive nominations as unappropriate don't really lift my spirit. ('peace once more?") |
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 16:06 | |
SBF, Rico. Could you take any further debate on this to the PMs please. I know Shane is making a point he believes in, and Rico is understandably standing by his review, but this thread is for reporting inappropriate reviews. It becomes harder to manage if it digresses into an ongoing debate about a specific review.
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memowakeman
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 16:21 | |
Hi, i dont know if only one who can see it, but click this The Lost Chord reviews
all his reviews are twice
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Bern
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: September 22 2005 Location: Québec Status: Offline Points: 11746 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 16:31 | |
Maybe he wants his ratings to be more important |
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 17:04 | |
See a couple of pages back. It seems to be a fault with the site, TLCs reviews are only posted by him once.
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Tony R
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: June 02 2006 at 19:09 | |
Three posts relating to Ricochet's review:Black Knights at the Court of Ferdinand IV,have been hidden.
This kind of discussion is not what this thread was designed for and the Admin Team are considering closing this thread and starting a new one,with stricter guidelines. Only reviews that fall foul of the guidelines should be discussed here.Technical merit and mischievois criticism should be conducted by PM. ENOUGH OF THIS NOW!!! |
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Tony R
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Posted: June 03 2006 at 12:29 | |
Wow----peace reigns.
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Ricochet
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: June 03 2006 at 16:14 | |
your voice is always an echo,Tony |
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