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Tristan Mulders 
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Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
 Posted: May 23 2006 at 16:02 |
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Interested in my reviews?
You can find them HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
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AtLossForWords
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Joined: October 11 2005 Status: Offline Points: 6699 |
Posted: May 23 2006 at 16:06 |
I wouldn't rule that out so quickly. Opeth's Orchid and Morningrise exhibit a lot of early Katatonia influence. Orchid and Morningrise have a lot in common with Dance of December Souls and Brave Murder Day, stylistically. If we bring in a band like Anathema and what they have done with their careers, Doom Metal is a much wider genre than some are lead to believe.
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Trickster F.
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Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
Posted: May 23 2006 at 16:16 |
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Yeah, but what Anathema has done in their career is not Doom Metal since a long time ago. The early Opeth and early Katatonia have a certain similarity in sound, but it's practically the same similarity surrounding most early 90's pioneering extreme metal groups with a melodic edge. It's like saying that because Burzum and Morbid Angel wrote Venom-influenced riffs they should be considered one of a kind.
The Doom Metal genre is quite limited, despite containing a few of its own sub-genres, and Opeth does not fit in any of them.
-- Ivan
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micky
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 16:20 |
hahahhah... I could see that it would be   love Damnation... haven't heard anything else. |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Man Made God
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Joined: March 21 2006 Status: Offline Points: 380 |
Posted: May 23 2006 at 17:15 |
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Well, not really what you call an easy poll.
I'm going for the 2001+ era, because I like their progressive sound of last couple of years best. I absolutely love the enormous diversity in their latest albums, and (as mentioned before) I think Per Wiberg adds the missing piece, of which I never thought as missing in the first place....  |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 17:33 |
I voted choice 3 ... but I'm sure that all of their albums are progressive. In a way My Arms, Your Hearse is even more progressive than Ghost Reveries. |
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DonCoryson
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Joined: February 17 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 24 |
Posted: May 23 2006 at 17:56 |
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Progressive years, but I am a fan of all their material.
The real question will be, where do they go next?
I don't know how much farther they can push their current style, other than to continue polarizing their music. I figure that we will see the lightest and also the heaviest songs that Opeth has ever written on the next album.
I also wouldn't mind hearing an Opeth album with all clean vocals, kind of like another Damnation but a tad heavier. Seems like that could be another logical progression for the band.
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el böthy
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 22:58 |
wait a minute...this is a prog site? |
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Drew
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 01:06 |
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2001 plus- easy
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Prog-jester
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Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5909 |
Posted: May 25 2006 at 11:18 |
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Well,I don't consider them to be a prog-metal band in it's usual meaning in 95-98.They used frequent signatures' changes,acoustic melodical parts,and without keyboards their music sounded pretty interesting - I thought I'd never use to keyboardless music,but it has happened: MORNINGRISE is my fav as well as Ghost Reveries and Damnation.They were complex and epic band with professional musicians and passionate songs,but definetely NOT PROGRESSIVE-ROCK-BAND - IMHO. In years of development they came to use different time signatures like 7/8 or 5/4 more frequently,using also prog attitude to their epics,making arrangements more complex and "proggy"...but the real PROG started from the Keyboard's Era - no way back,they're proggers with more influences from PORCUPINE TREE then from MY DYING BRIDE or DEATH... Actually I consider them more proggy then some old and respected bands from this site...nevermind the era
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Trickster F.
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 12:18 |
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Since when is Opeth a group "strongly influenced by Porcupine Tree"? -- Ivan
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daz2112
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Posted: May 25 2006 at 15:41 |
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Must admit Morningrise is my favourite! What an album & like a lot of peple say i think it is their most progressive!
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Prog-jester
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 10:47 |
Have you ever listened to DAMNATION?  Weakness,Hope Leaves,To Rid the Disease...Plus Atonement from Ghost Reveries.Steve is their producer now,as long as I know(plus Akerfeldt was a guest on Deadwing)
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Dantallion
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Joined: May 27 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 60 |
Posted: May 27 2006 at 15:17 |
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I think Steve Wilson Helped make them what They are today. I love Opeth though i still have a hard time with the growling vocals
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DonCoryson
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Posted: May 27 2006 at 15:58 |
Focus on the guitar riffs and drum fills and over time you will be able to listen to any type of growls.
That's what I did. |
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Serguilloche
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Posted: May 27 2006 at 17:51 |
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Orchid is their best album, the most atmospheric.
Doom Metal as a genre is not that limited, with bands ranging from Stoner Doom to Trad Doom to Death Doom to Funeral Doom, Cathedral to Black Sabbath to MDB to Thergothon. Depends on your view of limited I suppose. Opeth is certainly not Doom Metal, but IMO the more you care about pigeon-holing the less you care about the music. |
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Preferred OPETH era
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I wouldn't say Opeth were ever Doom Metal, Vince. DM is not a term as wide as Prog-Metal, the borders of which move and more diverse with time(thanks to PMs too partially perhaps). It is much faster than Doom Metal and the atmosphere is different(not neccessarily all atmospheric Metal is Doom either). I am not saying that Doom Metal is by definition a slow genre(although that's one of its common traits, I'm afraid), but the characteristics of DM don't allow Opeth's sound to be a part of it, still.
