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Posted: May 12 2006 at 03:52 |
I don't visit the home page very often, but a few moments ago I did and came across the following reviews:
CAMEL BreathlessReview by postfan
I really love Camel and I've got almost every album they've made. Unfortunately ther's some weaker albums too: The Snow Goose and Nude are weak for they are so boring, but this is something extraordinary! Breathless is just so bad it really pisses me off. I get really angry when I try to listen it, how could they manage to create something like this. I really cannot listen to it for a proper review, sorry. 1 star.
Posted Friday, May 12, 2006, 01:47 EST | Permanent link
Symphonic Prog (Studio Album, 1981) Avg: 3.96/5 from 45 ratings
CAMEL NudeReview by postfan
This is another Boring album from Camel. I tried several times to listen it through, but there's nothing to clutch. So I finally gave up. This is not prog. Prog is never so boring. Only one exception, I recall, Drafted. 2 points for that.
Posted Friday, May 12, 2006, 01:36 EST | Permanent link
From what I've read so far in this thread, I think both these reviews would qualify as inappropriate. He (or she) doesn't really say anything about the albums, except that they are bad and boring - and in the first one he even says that he can't listen to it properly. This is not what reviews should be like, I'm afraid. What do you think about it?
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 04:55 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
I don't visit the home page very often, but a few moments ago I did and came across the following reviews:
CAMEL BreathlessReview by postfan
I really love Camel and I've got almost every album they've made. Unfortunately ther's some weaker albums too: The Snow Goose and Nude are weak for they are so boring, but this is something extraordinary! Breathless is just so bad it really pisses me off. I get really angry when I try to listen it, how could they manage to create something like this. I really cannot listen to it for a proper review, sorry. 1 star.
Posted Friday, May 12, 2006, 01:47 EST | Permanent link
CAMEL NudeReview by postfan
This is another Boring album from Camel. I tried several times to listen it through, but there's nothing to clutch. So I finally gave up. This is not prog. Prog is never so boring. Only one exception, I recall, Drafted. 2 points for that.
Posted Friday, May 12, 2006, 01:36 EST | Permanent link
From what I've read so far in this thread, I think both these reviews would qualify as inappropriate. He (or she) doesn't really say anything about the albums, except that they are bad and boring - and in the first one he even says that he can't listen to it properly. This is not what reviews should be like, I'm afraid. What do you think about it? |
Hi Rafaella,
As much as I think these reviews are rather poor in lenght and in argumentation, I sort of agree with what he says about the albums he mentions. But I can remember also my early reviews not being much superior this these  . So I would not cast stones at him, just yet 
I expect that he will also send poor reviews about raindances and ICSYHFH and single Factor >> let's face it Camel was not putting out good record (and he does rate Nude better than Breathless) during that era
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 08:25 |
OK, let's not cast any stones at him  ... BTW, I was not criticising the content (I've yet to review "Breathless", but I would not give it more than 2 stars, in spite of Richard Sinclair being there), but rather the way he says the albums are c**p without at least explaining why. This is the way I think a review should be written. Otherwise, those who are interested in learning more about a given album would not get a proper idea of what to expect. Anyone can write a dismissive review and say "it's awful" - it's much more difficult to explain why.
Just my two cents... 
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 11:17 |
I agree with either...
First reviews are generally poor but PA "veteran" reviewers are improving more and more and requiring a similar standard from PA "rookies". It may be unfair but new reviewers have now hundreds or thousands of fine reviews to use as a starting-point. 
In the other side some albums deserve no more than a dozen lines but the ability to write little and say enough is reserved to a few gifted people, like Hughes or Raffaella, for instance. 
Conclusion: great chance that both reviews be removed. 
Edited by Atkingani - May 12 2006 at 11:19
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 14:22 |
Atkin; as much as I'd like to agree with you about Hughes; I'm gonna disagree. He doesn't review; he drones. And says nothing; at least nothing descriptive.
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 18:29 |
Jeez, Shane... I drone a lot when reviewing! 
But in different scales we all need sometimes to "fill the sausage" (Brazilian expression badly translated by me into English ).
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 04:54 |
Fill the sausage?
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 05:00 |
I suspect "filling the sausage" is waffling. It's probably a reference to the non-meat ingredients of a sausage. i.e. padding out a review to make it a bit more substantial.
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 08:09 |
HAWKWIND Anthology 1967-1982
Review by
thomascourtois
First review of this album
A good compilation for beginners, though the songs are from very various sources, with
differences in the sound. Typically, this double album gets you to find another (and so
better) hawkwind original recordings.
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 08:12 |
Easy Livin wrote:
I suspect "filling the sausage" is waffling. It's probably a reference to the non-meat ingredients of a sausage. i.e. padding out a review to make it a bit more substantial. |
Your recently discovered proficiency on Brazilian expressions is amazing!!! 
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 09:09 |
Atkingani wrote:
Easy Livin wrote:
I suspect "filling the sausage" is waffling. It's probably a reference to the non-meat ingredients of a sausage. i.e. padding out a review to make it a bit more substantial. |
Your recently discovered proficiency on Brazilian expressions is amazing!!!  |
this analogy exists in french also. 
Let's give the man a chace (I am biased though because I happen to agree with him  , which apparently Shane does not  )
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 09:25 |
RUSH 2112
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BBallBoy07
This Album is great. Geddy Lee's High pitched voice and fast chords, Alex lifeson and his
amazing solos, and niel peart,WHO IS the best drummer who ever lived. when all these
amazing musicians come together, the music they make is superb. Even in concert, there
music has the exact same quality as in studio. 2112 is the best song ever. I have never
heard a more skilfull song played.
 given that the album has 146 reviews at active,I demand more.
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 10:01 |
Ricochet wrote:
RUSH 2112 Review by BBallBoy07
This Album is great. Geddy Lee's High pitched voice and fast chords, Alex lifeson and his amazing solos, and niel peart,WHO IS the best drummer who ever lived. when all these amazing musicians come together, the music they make is superb. Even in concert, there music has the exact same quality as in studio. 2112 is the best song ever. I have never heard a more skilfull song played.
given that the album has 146 reviews at active,I demand more.
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Well this review will be coming in 147th place (at best) , so there is not much chance it will be read , and if you have not found better reviews in the 146 previous one , maybe we should stay away from the album 
I would not really worry about such reviews about an already well-reviewed album
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 17:33 |
YES Close to the Edge
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bambinfou
I have to admit I stopped liking this album after 2-3 listens and I must admit that,
in my opinion, it's really overrated, that's why i give it only 1 star. There are
many Yes albums much better than Close to the Edge, even if I think that Yes is
overrated. Try Pink Floyd, Genesis, Supertramp, Dream theater or King Crimson for
solid progressive rock music that really rocks !
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http://artrock2006.blogspot.com
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 19:10 |
Ricochet wrote:
HAWKWIND Anthology 1967-1982 Review by thomascourtois
First review of this album
A good compilation for beginners, though the songs are from very various sources, with differences in the sound. Typically, this double album gets you to find another (and so better) hawkwind original recordings.
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 19:29 |
Dragon Phoenix wrote:
YES Close to the EdgeReview by bambinfou
I have to admit I stopped liking this album after 2-3 listens and I must admit that, in my opinion, it's really overrated, that's why i give it only 1 star. There are many Yes albums much better than Close to the Edge, even if I think that Yes is overrated. Try Pink Floyd, Genesis, Supertramp, Dream theater or King Crimson for solid progressive rock music that really rocks !
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Maybe an attempt to change TOP 100 Chart... to be handled with! 
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 07:46 |
Probably just three reviews of the same album from the same person...
NEW TROLLS New Trolls '70Review by oms.salvador
It is not a progressive album, but one collection of published songs on 45 turns. But it is the beautifulst album, because us extension all the technique for which are famous the New Trolls. Therefore, if in music tried feeling and excellent technique this is that ago for you. Useless to describe a song instead of an other because they are the all beautifulst ones. It listens to you and then you say to me.
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NEW TROLLS New Trolls '70Review by AndreaSalvador
This is one of the many collections of the New Trolls, important because it is the first and because it collects all 45 lap escapes in those years and not comprised in the first LP. The great music, enormous technique and 0 Profressive ones. But it is a great album, that council to all the lovers of the period of transition towards Adult Progressive.
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NEW TROLLS New Trolls '70Review by MANDRAKEROOT (Andrea Salvador)
LEI MI DICEVA: SENSAZIONI, VISIONI... (SHE SAID ME: FEELINGS, SIGHTS...)
Bewilder these New Trolls... They begin with "Senza Orario, Senza Bandiera" big Proto Prog disc and like second disc LP us proposed a collection of 7"... But you did not wait for the classic Beat song because is are Proto Hard or absolutely Hard Rock. Nevertheless are also extremely Proto Prog!
Nico Di Palo shows to be more of an imitator of Hendrix, because is in possession of a large technique. You listen to "Lei Mi Diceva", "Corro Da Tr", "Una Nuvola Bianca" and "Annalisa", songs where not notes not like the ours build a very technical Rock and still today present. But the disc is opened with "Una Miniera", tragic song (for lyrics and music), an evergreen of the Italian music and "Davanti Agli Occhi Miei", large keyboard Hard Rock. Besides this LP contains "Io Che Ho Te", classic Beat ballad that is a lot of Procol Harum, but plus Prog and with the orchestra that a lot of Symphonic gives back it. Well... Symphonic Beat Ballad!!!
That group the New Trolls. Erred today in Italy it there is not more groups so.
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 09:59 |
At least he didn't change his ratings! To be dealt with...
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Posted: May 15 2006 at 13:53 |
This one is incomprehensible.
CAIRO CairoReview by drain-o (Jacques Brenier)
I remember to obtain this when I saw the parts and the songs on the back of an album of homage for the side in black of the moon was which about what Magna Carta was all. I cannot remember if I like which Cairo made, but I guess that I must have liked it because then I went to buy this album of Cairo which they called after themselves. They are not Egypt or Sudan, but I think that they are the United States.
They begin the album with far with the design which gives me average Eastern feelings and the guitar is large like the top of the funds of a pyramid and adhesive of circus. It is a short supposed piece to depict the beginning of the album of box. After the this simple ends, it is time for the season of the heart. It has a beginning awkward for me, deliberated among bottles on soda and green cords on latitude with crescents. But then energy begins again and I judge where they are matched with this one, not only on comets, but around my hairs of nose. Tinkling makes almost me want to shout and the ants in my chimneys. Probably a certain season ago which had a heart, but I think that it differs from the people to the person and them on the left he open probably given for this.
The instrumentation is delightly like the predecessors of the gold era. The quiet winter is always in the topic of season and has a more modern approach with him. I like susceptibilities of the keyboard of Robertson in that and the preceding box. I am completely with this. The drums begin again and are more interesting then before and I think historically behind in time. It is a superb nice song.
Between the lines is also an energy of the batteries waiting to drop itself above the wall to be delivered trousers is with until this encourages me to want to think. It evaluates the health of spirit to be in your preferred food chain of fast preparation. The work of guitar of Fuhrman is delicious amusement present and still I am with the mood of Robertson. Bret Douglas has an interesting voice well that sometimes it encourages me to think of the tin and the aluminium with best of them.
Still, we continue this retrogressive exposure of the noises as one lost moment where the melons reigned the ground. The power and energy vibrate all my bodies in crescendo of the soft activities and yellow-striped papers. The divided world has to me to wonder whether it obtained cut of pieces of circular graph, but I think that it is something more abstract that a meat pie and the meat pies are not like balls.
The ruins with the door of Avalon seems to be the homage or the sign of approval of Cairo of the hands and the arms with ELP. I am magic to see hands and arms and when they are agitated in the breeze. It is a long song and I am dubious as for the section of Avalon. On this date, I appreciate in the model of keyboard of Emersonian that Robertson chose to use with the rather good effect. It is like seeking neutrons the morning but like not finding any ventilator. It is a splendid end at an excellent beginning of these Americans.
In the turbines, I must give these four holds the first role. I thought that approximately three holds the first role with the beginning, but the musical direction is up to now removed average, I leaned in the direction of four holds the first role. I think which necessary Cairo was a little of variation of model while I detected a sameness above the whole length of their work. Moreover, one certain improvement of the production or mixture would be useful because I felt and detected some muddy noises. Always, the music is far higher than other bands in 1994. Thus, in the trousers of yesterday, I incline the head my hands and the arms to give four hold the first role. --JB
And, in all honesty, my first opinion of Hugues' reviews stands, especially when reviews such as this are taken into account.
YES YesReview by Sean Trane (Hugues Chantraine) SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog-Folk Specialist
Ambitious psych or proto prog that should not be too highly regarded as this is their first one and they will get much better. A good thing to do is to invest into Yesterday as the best tracks from this one and the following one are gathered into one good compilation. Really!, the most interesting numbers have been picked up one that good compilation.
Well...so what if "they will get much better". Why "should it not be too highly regarded"? Is that really fair? To say nothing of the review itself, which says, well, NOTHING about the record. And please, Hugues..."We" don't all think alike (your reviews of Rush's 2112 and Hemispheres). Speak for yourself. Ugh.
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Posted: May 15 2006 at 14:54 |
ZAPPA, FRANK Hot RatsReview by Akebono (Oscar)
Ok: there are a couple of songs I don΄t like that much BUT Son of Mr Green Genes and Willy the Pimp have some guitar solos that are out of this world. I have never heared anything like them played by another guitar player, EVER...!
Rather short isn't it. He doesn't likes a couple of songs and still he rates 5 stars ??
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