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Tuzvihar 
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 15:56 |
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Some questions that has arisen in my head:
Does prog appeal more to humanists or to people who prefer natural sciences? Or maybe prog attracts both groups equally? Do they search for different things in it then (maybe they're even fans of different subgenres)? To which group do you belong?
As for me I'm a mathematician. And I don't dismiss any prog subgenre although some I know less than others (such as krautrock or canterbury). I love symphonic and fusion the most.
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 16:30 |
I am a proghead an a psychiatric nurse, I always have been intricated by these kind of questions. A few years ago I read an article in a psychology magazine about emotions and music. Remarkable: hardrock fans have difficulties to show their emotions, they tend to react with depressions of addictions like alcohol, hip-hop and house fans turns out to be the ones with the most agressive behaviour and progrock fans, they ..or love to dream away from reality or show an almost obsessive behaviour to rationalise/control everything.
During the last five years I often observed progheads during concerts and psychiatric patients during their music activities in order to check that article out and ... in general I subscribe it!
By the way, I love the Seventies progrock and prefer more emotion than technical ability so I listen more to Genesis, Pink Floyd, Barclay James Harvest and Camel than jazzrock, fusion, prog metal and Rio/Avant-garde.
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 16:51 |
I have spend some time at a technical university and at a university of law.
The musical taste of lots of people at the technical univeristy came close to prog. Marillion (the band I listened to a lote that time) was a band everybody knew.
The other university was more into the regular Pop songs. Nobody knew Marillion.
I leave the conclusion to the jury.......
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 17:27 |
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I'm an engineering student I can say that there is no sub-genre of prog that I dislike though admitadly I havnt heard them all. The technical abilaty of musicians like Steve Howe, John Myung etc is what drew me to prog but I want more than just technical wizadry from them, a sense of passion and emotion from it.
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The Miracle
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 18:36 |
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Lonely old guys who can't get sex.
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sleeper
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 19:21 |
 The Miracle wrote:
Lonely old guys who can't get sex.
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So what does that say about you Ansen  (and me for that matter  )
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WaywardSon
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 21:59 |
Very interesting thread.
When I look back I used to be a real metalhead! Someone said it was for very emotional people who couldnīt express their feelings and emotions (hence the angry agressive sound, headbanging!)
Then I moved more into Art Prog and Prog Metal.
Now, Iīm getting more into Neo Prog because it feels strangely comforting, like Iīve come full circle.
Maybe Iīm getting better  |
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Under
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 08:43 |
^ Or you are getting lonely and old.
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 08:45 |
QUOTE=The Miracle]Lonely old guys who can't get sex. [/QUOTE]
With over 13.000 op posts you must really are a Methusalem.
Miracle, with money you can get a girl who loves to have sex with you and has no problem to do it with Pain of Salvation on the back.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 09:33 |
I am getting on in life, 43 years old.
But really when you live in a country where there are five million more women than men, sex really isnīt a problem.
My only problem is money to buy new CDīs  |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 09:46 |
older threads regarding political and religious tendencies on this site indicate that the average profile is leaning towards the left wing economy, the libertarian way of life and a general non-religious attitude (with a rather strong atheist minority (some 40% if memory serves and other agnostics or pagan accounting for another 15%)
I'll try to bump up the threads
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 10:18 |
Hey, people! Did you read my initial post ? I meant this two groups of people: humanists and those who like natural sciences.
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 10:44 |
Tuzvihar wrote:
Hey, people! Did you read my initial post ? I meant this two groups of people: humanists and those who like natural sciences. |
You mean humanists cannot like natural sciences then, since you make them almost antagonists
Sorry, but your original post is not that clear ........... to me anyway  but from your reaction to other posts , not just to me
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Seyo
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 11:06 |
I like natural sciences but I am basically in humanities - law, politics, sociology, history... I never had good technical education. I don't like metal, neo and the lighter version of Art and Sympho Rock which are close to AOR. Left-Libertarian and non-religious. 
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Kid-A
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 18:34 |
they are not independant of each other
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Viajero Astral
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 19:20 |
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Im a graphic designer and close to the art so, Im humanist, but cience is important too (I dont pay much atention to it but I apreciate it), left-libertarian and religious.
Oh yea, and all of the sub-genres of prog are amazing IMO.
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Mr. Krinkle
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 20:16 |
Tuzvihar wrote:
Some questions that has arisen in my head:
Does prog appeal more to humanists or to people who prefer natural
sciences? Or maybe prog attracts both groups equally? Do they search
for different things in it then (maybe they're even fans of different
subgenres)? To which group do you belong?
As for me I'm a mathematician. And I don't dismiss any prog
subgenre although some I know less than others (such as krautrock or
canterbury). I love symphonic and fusion the most. |
I think prog appeals both science technical people and humanists. it is
clear, the commplexity in the creation of the music has i think a lot
of similarities with how evrything is created here in the world from a
structural point of view, very technical. In the other hand this
complex creation is filled with a enormous amount of emotions that
appeal a more humanistic kind of person. Think prog in general is great
for that, it is the perfect and precise combinations of this two
elements.
I dont know how the person's relation to it is though, i mean weather
this two kinds of personalities, science and humanist, are atracted by
the same things to prog. The proggers i know are mostly, if not
absolutely, on the humanist field, and i think they are more atracted
by the emotional side of prog, not saying that they overlook the
technical side though.
pretty good thread 
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Barla
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 20:27 |
Maybe people that have gone to university.
But Prog is for everyone  |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 13 2006 at 23:55 |
Barla wrote:
Maybe people that have gone to university.
But Prog is for everyone |
I would agree that prog appeals more to university educated people who have a higher attention span, and less superficial view needed to appreciate prog.
Personally I'm a math major with a minor in philosophy so I guess I'm taken from both sides of the spectrum.
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video vertigo
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 03:22 |
RycheMan wrote:
I am getting on in life, 43 years old.
But really when you live in a country where there are five million more women than men, sex really isnīt a problem.
My only problem is money to buy new CDīs |
I'm so moving.
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