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Sean Trane 
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 Posted: May 11 2006 at 09:03 |
 chopper wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ I mean that an album which I award with only 3 stars is one that IMO contains so many flaws that while I would not call it bad (I'm a polite person) I would not want it in my album collection, and I would not recommend it to anybody. |
OK, you're working differently to me. I normally start with 3 stars and work up or down. This means the average CD in my collection would be 3 stars (that would be something like Rush's Fly By Night, nothing earth shattering, but perfectly reasonable and one I would play every now and then), then there would be the 4 star albums such as Renaissance's Ashes Are Burning which (imo) are brilliant and get played a lot, then I reserve 5 stars for absolute classics such as Relayer. |
this is exactly how the rating should be done : by the middle and not from the top >> this would avoid many deceptions
Edited by Sean Trane - May 11 2006 at 09:04
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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chopper
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 08:48 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ I mean that an album which I award with only 3 stars is one that IMO contains so many flaws that while I would not call it bad (I'm a polite person) I would not want it in my album collection, and I would not recommend it to anybody. |
OK, you're working differently to me. I normally start with 3 stars and work up or down. This means the average CD in my collection would be 3 stars (that would be something like Rush's Fly By Night, nothing earth shattering, but perfectly reasonable and one I would play every now and then), then there would be the 4 star albums such as Renaissance's Ashes Are Burning which (imo) are brilliant and get played a lot, then I reserve 5 stars for absolute classics such as Relayer.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 08:33 |
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^ I mean that an album which I award with only 3 stars is one that IMO contains so many flaws that while I would not call it bad (I'm a polite person) I would not want it in my album collection, and I would not recommend it to anybody.
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chopper
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 08:18 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
The point is that the current system gives me exactly two options for albums which I really like. 3 stars are already mediocre. Let's face it - an album which you rate "good, but non essential" is not an album that you would recommend to anybody.
So that leaves me with 4 or 5 stars for my favorite albums. Not enough for me! |
Why not? If an album's good, then I'd recommend it. There's no such thing as an "essential" album in the strict definition of the word.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 05:15 |
Easy Livin wrote:
One of the main issues with introducing half stars now is the impact on all the existing ratings. For the majority of people, these cannot be changed once they are posted. We would be inundated with people saying, I gave this album 3 stars but I now want to make it 3½. |
Of course that's a problem. But I doubt that many people would insist on this. And those who do could be told: "Write more reviews, become a Prog Reviewer and then you're able to edit your reviews".
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Rocktopus
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 04:26 |
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Half stars would be great. Its needed.
There' a huge difference if an album is rated 3.51 of 4.49. Still they both end up being a (****) four star album. Very misleading.
****1/2 stars is also its how most people would rate albums with one
weak song short of a masterpiece. When four is too little, five is too
much.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Easy Livin
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Posted: May 11 2006 at 03:57 |
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One of the main issues with introducing half stars now is the impact on all the existing ratings. For the majority of people, these cannot be changed once they are posted. We would be inundated with people saying, I gave this album 3 stars but I now want to make it 3½.
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aapatsos
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Posted: May 10 2006 at 18:47 |
^ this is true
if there is only one half star that needs to be inroduced, that's the 4.5 star
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 10 2006 at 18:42 |
The point is that the current system gives me exactly two options for albums which I really like. 3 stars are already mediocre. Let's face it - an album which you rate "good, but non essential" is not an album that you would recommend to anybody.
So that leaves me with 4 or 5 stars for my favorite albums. Not enough for me!
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Fitzcarraldo
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Posted: May 10 2006 at 18:24 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
How about introducing ONE half star:
1 2 3 4 4.5 5
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I think things are OK as they are really, but would not be particularly bothered if half-stars were introduced.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 10 2006 at 18:13 |
How about introducing ONE half star:
1 2 3 4 4.5 5
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 10 2006 at 17:43 |
I'm very much against the idea, but i believe that there will be half stars at some time.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: May 10 2006 at 17:12 |
I didn't see anything appear in the search, so I thought I'd bring this idea up:
I see a lot of reviewers (including myself) make a note about the album worth _.5 stars or "add another half star," etc. for whatever reason, but they have to mark it down slightly less than they think it's worth, or they raise it up slightly more than they think it's worth. It isn't really important, but it might be nifty if we could have half-star rating abilities. I did see a thread suggesting a 10-star system, but I think condensing it into 5 with half-stars would be better.
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