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    Posted: May 08 2006 at 18:34
Which is in your humble opinion the most technically proficient progressive rock band, in terms of each individual band member showing their individual talent on their work?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 22:14
Well, since we're technically talking, you can't have a "technical skill" thread without at LEAST one mention of DREAM THEATER.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 22:37
The Mahavishnu Orchestra is also worth mentioning.

Just look at this video to see for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J88Ep3_vKIk&search=mahavishnu%20orchestra

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 02:23
Rush, Yes, Asia

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 02:37
Gong.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 03:24
DEEP PURPLE - throughout their long history purple have always had the most proficient players in their midst, most recently Steve Morse, a very gifted guitar player in his own right, and Don Airey, who on keyboards is a worthy successor to the classicly brilliant Jon Lord, one of the best hammond players ever. no other group has attempted to merge themselves with a full orchestra, i thought the results debatable but the group were pleased, they pulled off a technical miracle! their most popular album "machine head" was recorded in less than perfect conditions, though remains a technical masterpiece, from the opening bars Blackmore and Lord are duelling and matching each other note for note at an amazing speed. AND available in 5.1 surround sound and SACD. need i mention the phenomenal skills of Ritchie Blackmore....very few guitarists have come close to match his phenomenal virtuosity, like Ian Gillan and Steve Morse he managed his own group very sucessfully for many years. Ian Paice is one if not THE most technically proficient drummers in the world, his "break" on Made in Japan is a joy, and Ian Gillan remains one of the most gifted voices in rock, his amazing screeeeeeeams have to be heard to be believed!!!! today the group get better and better, hardly a duff album (maybe one or two, material which most top groups would have given their back teeth for) in their entire catalogue. so there you have it - my case for Deep Purple, the most technically proficient band of all! Clap Thumbs Up

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 03:28
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Gong.
 
WHY??.................i've never heard Gong.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 03:29
Originally posted by video vertigo video vertigo wrote:

Rush, Yes, Asia
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 03:29
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Well, since we're technically talking, you can't have a "technical skill" thread without at LEAST one mention of DREAM THEATER.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 04:37
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Gong.
 
WHY??.................i've never heard Gong.

Gong had THE drummer (the late Pierre Moerlen; see my signature pic) and THE flautist and sax player (Didier Malherbe, especially unbeatable on flute. And don't mention Ian Anderson; he pales in comparison). And Steve Hillage on guitar and Mike Howlett on bass are no slouches either. The tightest band ever. And, by the way, Daevid Allen is not a bad guitar player either, though he left the lead to Hillage and only played glissando guitar.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 04:56
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

[QUOTE=BaldFriede]Gong.
 
And, by the way, Daevid Allen is not a bad guitar player either, though he left the lead to Hillage and only played glissando guitar.
 
True, listen to Camembert Electrique and some of his solo albums for proof.
 
I'd also nominate (from the old school)
  • Magma 1973/4 with the Vander/Top rhythm section,
  • King Crimson's double trio line up (or just about any other),
  • Zappa's touring band in the 1970s featuring Ruth Underwood
  • Can

Currently I'd say that the most technically proficient band around is probably Koenjihyakkei - Angherr Shisspa is an awesomely powerful album.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 05:26
Can someone define 'Technically profficient' I know what it means to me, but there may be some people here who are just inclined to mention their favourite bands.

If by 'technical profficiency' we mean most complex/difficult to excecute musicianship, then the most profficient artists are likely to be jazz/rock fusion bands like Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X etc. IMO.

The term could also apply to artists like Robert John Godfrey of The Enid, who is a respected composer and brilliant pianist.

I have to admit, even though I dont think they have an ounce of soul in their song writing, Dream Theater are probably among the most technically profficient rock musicians in the business.

I'd like to hear the views of 'technically profficient' musicians on this matter...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 12:18
Have to say those few prog bands that pre-glasnost Eastern European Iron Curtain countries allowed to perform and record fit this requirement: the then Czech Collegium Musicum and Russian Horizont immediate suggest themselves - and equally their records suggest that they were graduates from the best local music colleges.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 12:42
Dream Theater beats them all in this aspect. I don't know any guitarist with better technical skills than Petrucci, and the rest of the band are all extremely good on their instruments too.
Of course that doesn't mean that they are the best band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 13:57
Rush
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 15:00
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Can someone define 'Technically profficient' I know what it means to me, but there may be some people here who are just inclined to mention their favourite bands.

If by 'technical profficiency' we mean most complex/difficult to excecute musicianship, then the most profficient artists are likely to be jazz/rock fusion bands like Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X etc. IMO.

The term could also apply to artists like Robert John Godfrey of The Enid, who is a respected composer and brilliant pianist.

I have to admit, even though I dont think they have an ounce of soul in their song writing, Dream Theater are probably among the most technically profficient rock musicians in the business.

I'd like to hear the views of 'technically profficient' musicians on this matter...
 
I have the same definition as you...For me it's Zappa. The way he moved between musical styles & some at times incredibly complex arrangements, then managed to replicate it all in a live situation is amazing. Especially considering how often the band's lineup changed...Only one thing remained constant: the high level of musicianship. FZ was really a musical perfectionist & it showed...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 15:01
Rush!!!!!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 15:32
My vote goes to Dream Theater - they don't have a weak link.  Each member is a master of his instrument (ooer) and if I had to compile a top 5 for each of those instruments in prog, they would all appear.  I kow that last sentence didn't make any sense, but you know what I mean Confused

Even James is one of the foremost tambourinists in the arena of handheld percussion.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 16:06
We're going to sit here and pretend ELP didn't exist, aren't we.

Tarkus still has to be one of the most (if not THE most) demanding suites in prog to play.. and they played it, so.. ELP.

(not that I'm a great fan of the band..)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2006 at 16:11
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

 
True, listen to Camembert Electrique and some of his solo albums for proof.
 
I'd also nominate (from the old school)
  • Magma 1973/4 with the Vander/Top rhythm section,
  • King Crimson's double trio line up (or just about any other),
  • Zappa's touring band in the 1970s featuring Ruth Underwood
  • Can

Currently I'd say that the most technically proficient band around is probably Koenjihyakkei - Angherr Shisspa is an awesomely powerful album.


Magma in the "Live / Hhai" line-up was first class too, with a very young Didier Lockwood (he was 17 or 18 at that time.).


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