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Poll Question: Which was the worst?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2006 at 23:09
Definitly Gabriel leaving Genesis... the group missed so much with his departure
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2006 at 23:22

Gabriel leaving Genesis.

"It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2006 at 23:33
When Gabriel left Genesis there was a tragedy but when Steve Hackett left that was a catastrophe...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 00:14
   PUNK ROCK!
Looking still the same after all these years...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 00:26
Syd being removed from Pink Floyd.

The photos with him hiding in the background of the band tear me in half.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 00:31
I have to agree with the mob here. Easy call for Genesis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 01:06
Interesting poll.. I choose easily Peter Gabriel

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 01:07

Peter Leaving Genesis

Also Trevor Rabin Joining Yes
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 01:09
Well, this is a real funny poll, because:
 
1) The solo work of Fish is very poor, but MARILLION is now better than never!!!
 
2) Roger didn't leave PINK FLOYD. The band was over, and then Gilmour decided to resuscitate it!
 
3) SPOCK'S BEARD was being repetitive with only Neal composing the songs. Now the band is showing a new refreshing sound, and it's good!
 
4) Peter Gabriel was having great ideas, but he couldn't develop this with GENESIS. I think he choosed the best: let the band follow your way, while he gone with his own steps. And the 4 piece band made 3 excellent albuns, before goes into pop... then, Gabriel exit wasn't a disaster!
 
Then, for me, not one of these happenings wasn't disasters, but natural choices that gave us opportunities to discover new sounds from these incredible artists...Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 01:48
Originally posted by mrgd mrgd wrote:

   PUNK ROCK!
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there are no second chances.
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Always live for today.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 02:13
As I'm more of a Floyd fan than a Genesis one, I'd settle for Waters leaving PF - or whatever really happened. The albums PF made without Waters are pleasant enough to listen to, but they are also rather soulless.
 
Another, though lesser known, tragedy (according to my personal taste) was Richard Sinclair leaving Caravan. It is no coincidence that the band's best album, "In the Land of Grey and Pink", was the one to which Richard contributed the most - both as a composer and as a vocalist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 02:13
Anderson and Wakeman leaving Yes..to be replaced by The BugglesDisapprove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 03:01
Originally posted by martinprog77 martinprog77 wrote:

Originally posted by mrgd mrgd wrote:

   PUNK ROCK!
ClapClapClapClapClapClapClap
 
i don't think punk rock was such a tragedy for prog - it gave the rock scene a jolly good kick up the backside!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 03:14
 
Not real tragedies, because the loss of great musicians as Gary Thain, David Byron, Helmut Kollen, Rick Van der Linden, Jeff Porcaro, Keith Moon or John Entwistle among others are real tragedies, so a bit in a less serious mood:
  1. Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett leaving Genesis
  2. Phil Collins leaving his drums kit and taking a mic
  3. Steve Hacklett and Steve Howe joining GTR
  4. Love Beach
  5. John Elefante replacing Steve Walsh in Kansas
  6. Fish leaving Marillion
  7. In the Hot Seat
  8. Rick Wakeman starts to play New Age
  9. Brain Salad Perjury (Re-Works)...This should be number one, but ELP was not so important by that moment.
  10. ABACRAP

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 03:40
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 Yes, the above mentioded losses are the real tragedies.
 
 About the poll I think the departure of Steve Hackett caused more damage than the departure of Gabriel.
 The 4-piece Genesis was still very good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 03:43
How about Steve Hackett & Steve Howe deciding that instead of writing the greatest prog-rock guitar album ever, they'd get a squeaky voiced singer & release 'GTR' as a horrible AOR album...

Now that was a tragedy!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 04:02

Peter Gabriel...

The died of Symphonic Genesis

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 05:18
Originally posted by Antennas Antennas wrote:

Syd Barrett going completely *bonkers* and as such being forced to leave PF was quite a tragedy I think.


It was a tragedy for Syd - but would the band have produced such masterpieces as "Meddle", "DSOTM" or "WYWH" if Syd had remained in the bad, addled or not?

Harsh, I know.

Likewise, Fish had to leave Marillion - although I wish he'd go back. "Clutching At Straws" really sums up his emotional state at the time, and is noticeably weaker than the predecessors. There's still time for Mr Dick to go back and resurrect Marillion properly - Marbles has shown that they still have the potential.

I agree on Genesis being a team effort - the trio clearly wanted to make a few bucks and they did. Maybe they like what they did after "Duke", but I don't. My loss, I suppose.

The biggest tragedy for me was the loss of Freddie Mercury - a fabulous and irreplaceable singer with a brilliant musical imagination.

True, it took his knowledge of his own impending doom for him to stop mucking about with the pop rubbish and lead the band to come up with "Innuendo", but he was such a great showman - the world will wait a long time before we see his like again.

RIP Freddie
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 05:40
Hackett leaving Genesis, IMO.

I did like ATTWT and Duke; I think they are both excellent albums, but it was clear that the glory days were over. What happened to their music after Duke was the biggest tragedy in rock music history. Period.

Also with regard to 80's Genesis, and how they feel about it now. I've heard Banks say that Invisible Touch is the album he is least proud of. He claimed different at the time of it's release, of course and Chester Thompson also said that it got to a point with Genesis where they were so huge, in the mid 80's that 'something was lost' Playing with them seemed to not be the special thing it had been in the 70's. They had become a product.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2006 at 06:58
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Only reminding forum posters that calling other person as "idiot" isn't a good manner to have an educated and learning discussion. Agressive posts containing this word to be edited.
 Thanks for the response and editing, I do't like it when the forums turn sour.Thumbs Up
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