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    Posted: April 28 2006 at 21:35
I´m a bit troubled when I think of the top 100. If it´s based on ratings we are one day going to have 90000 reviews for Close to the Edge! After awhile I doubt anyboday reads them, they just go, "Oh another Close to the edge review" Also when fanboys see their group going down the chart they immediately will write a review to get their favourite album up again.
It is pretty complicated, but I think there should be some annual vote after 500 reviews of the same album. I´m not sure exactly how to go about it but this is food for thought.
 
Maybe some members can add on to this idea until we achieve having a 100% genuine fullproof poll!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2006 at 13:00
Originally posted by RycheMan RycheMan wrote:

I´m a bit troubled when I think of the top 100. If it´s based on ratings we are one day going to have 90000 reviews for Close to the Edge! After awhile I doubt anyboday reads them, they just go, "Oh another Close to the edge review" Also when fanboys see their group going down the chart they immediately will write a review to get their favourite album up again.
It is pretty complicated, but I think there should be some annual vote after 500 reviews of the same album. I´m not sure exactly how to go about it but this is food for thought.
 
Maybe some members can add on to this idea until we achieve having a 100% genuine fullproof poll!!
I was thinking that perhaps the solution would be that the logarithm "flattens out" after a certain number of reviews (say 250 or 300). after that # of reviews the rating would be simply the exact point value.So an album that had a 4.56 with 400 ratings would not be higher than a 4.64 album with 300 ratings (for example)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2006 at 17:47

New reviewers have the right to submit reviews of the albums they like and for instance "CttE" could be among them. It's obvious that with time reviews will accumulate and something will have to be done. Smile

All reviews shall remain in the ARCHIVES but perhaps only a few shall appear in the album pages - the most noticeable and helpful ones. The problem shall be to decide which is which. Confused
 
However, all suggestions are welcome! Thumbs Up


Edited by Atkingani - April 29 2006 at 21:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2006 at 07:53
Thanks Guigo,

The plan is to display in the album pages only the
Collabs reviews +

Either/Both:

- Last 5 reviews
- Top 5 voted as best review (for non-collabs) : more complex though

And to have a PAGE where all the reviews / ratings of a specific album should be showed.


Ideas, suggestions ?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2006 at 08:34
As this proposal impacts most on reviews by those who are not (yet!) Prog Reviewers or Special Collaborators, it would be good to get feedback from people in that category.
 
By the way, the FAQ's thread has info on becoming a Prog Reviewer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2006 at 04:30
Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

Thanks Guigo,

The plan is to display in the album pages only the
Collabs reviews +

Either/Both:

- Last 5 reviews
- Top 5 voted as best review (for non-collabs) : more complex though

And to have a PAGE where all the reviews / ratings of a specific album should be showed.


Ideas, suggestions ?



Well .... this doesnt' seem to have had any takers so I guess I'd better get the ball rolling.

First: make all collaborators review their old reviews and remove those that do not come up to scratch. There are some poor old ones, even from collabs.

Second: significantly increase the minimum viewable review size - eg 200 words. This will eliminate short reviews as well as most of the poor ones. Do this only where there are already more than a fixed number of reviews, eg 20 or whatever .....

..... Third: if there are still more than the agreed maximum number of reviews, specialist collab(s) to weed and prune until the ceiling is reached OR simply keep the last x-number of reviews to maintain the maximum and remove older ones. [snag - what if the maximum is reached by all Collab reviews? - no non-Collab review will ever get shown unless they are all treated the same]

Fourth: don't actually delete any old or unused reviews (or unworthy), but as Max suggests above, have an extra page where ALL reviews can be accessed, no matter how small or unworthy. Thus, the main album page will have a smaller selection of the most comprehensive and useful reviews, with a button to access all the rest.

Fifth: INCREASE the weighting differential for the ratings. Suggestion -

             x1   no review
             x2   short review non-Collab (eg <200 words)
             x3   long review non-Collab (eg 200> words)
             x4   short review Collab (eg <200 words)
             x5   long review Collab (eg 200> words)

Sixth: perhaps you should acknowledge that some people write Reviews while others simply want to post Comments. So, from now onwards, people should be given the choice: either write a full and proper review, with an enforced minimum word count, which must adhere to the site guidelines and would be eligible to appear on the main album page which is moderated and maintained by the specialist Collabs; or write a shorter set of comments which obviously must not be defammatory or objectionable but which otherwise can be given more latitude, and which will go to the secondary Comments page. Both would appear, as now, on the front page while it is new.

Well .... those are my thoughts as an ordinary member, for what they are worth. I hope they are of interest to somebody.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2006 at 04:36
Some considered well put together thoughts there Joolz . Many thanks!Clap
 
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