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Meddler 
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 Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:38 |
 Ghandi 2 wrote:
Tenth Chaffinch wrote:
thats right all of you gang up on me. nancyboys travel in pack I've heard |
Your intelligence overwhelms me. Your exquisite use of a varied and deep vocabulary is incredibly, not to mention your incredible grasp on grammar and punctuation. Truly, my good sir, thou art Shakespeare reincarnated.
Or maybe you're just another troll. Does making other people angry make you feel important? |
Ghandi 2, as you can see, we're trying to END this. 
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Ghandi 2
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:37 |
Tenth Chaffinch wrote:
thats right all of you gang up on me. nancyboys travel in pack I've heard |
Your intelligence overwhelms me. Your exquisite use of a varied and deep vocabulary is incredibly, not to mention your incredible grasp on grammar and punctuation. Truly, my good sir, thou art Shakespeare reincarnated.
Or maybe you're just another troll. Does making other people angry make you feel important?
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:37 |
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Thank you very much The Miracle....although I find unintelligent immature arguing entertaining...
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Tenth Chaffinch
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:35 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
....sorry....not thinking straight....again see "tired" comment....but my point is that I'm not insulting you or trying to be defensive of a group that I like just because you attacked them, I'll admit that TMV definitely are easy to attack. Just don't stoop to stupid immature comparisons like i hypocritically did. |
you admitted it. i respect you. no sarcasm. lets just end this on this note:
Tenth Chaffinch does not enjoy the music or artistic expressions of The Mars Volta
End of argument, end of hostility.
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:35 |
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Ok, enough. No one's changing anyone's opinions here, let's not reduce ourselves to name calling.
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:34 |
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hahahah random side note if anyone wants to see how stupid america has gotten watch the MTV *i believe and don't make any MTV and TMV are the same letters hahahah or some other dumb sh*t like that comment* show called "Yo Mama"....didnt know whether to laugh or cry knowing that China or the Middle East is going to take over in a few decades.....
and i know 'yo mama' jokes are possibly the most immature "insult" that can be made...and are also very annoying
Edited by heyitsthatguy - April 23 2006 at 00:35
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Zoso
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:33 |
Tenth Chaffinch wrote:
If it's my opinion shut the f**k up and talk about something else.
Like you predicted I would say that, you're a joke.
You are proof that the Mars volta crowd is everything I've said and more.
Congratulations, you're a tool.
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Alright, pipe down. You have your opinion, and we have ours, we've
established this. Leave the fans alone, you're allowed to like what you
like. I consider myself to be one of the Mars Volta "crowd", and your
generalization of us is offensive and frankly bullsh*t.
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Meddler
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:33 |
Tenth Chaffinch wrote:
thats right all of you gang up on me. nancyboys travel in pack I've heard |
You just proved my point. o_O
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:32 |
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....sorry....not thinking straight....again see "tired" comment....but my point is that I'm not insulting you or trying to be defensive of a group that I like just because you attacked them, I'll admit that TMV definitely are easy to attack. Just don't stoop to stupid immature comparisons like i hypocritically did.
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Meddler
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:31 |
The Miracle wrote:
Tenth Chaffinch wrote:
If it's my opinion shut the f**k up and talk about something else.
Like you predicted I would say that, you're a joke.
You are proof that the Mars volta crowd is everything I've said and more.
Congratulations, you're a tool.
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This is usually said by someone who lost an argument
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Quite true.  Its proven that people who can no longer defend their position resort to anger, name calling, attacks towards the person's character, and down-right nastiness. 
Edited by Meddler - April 23 2006 at 00:31
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:23 |
Tenth Chaffinch wrote:
The news doesnt force opinions on you, it simply conveys them in an overly elaborate, easy to misinterpret, and self-indulgent way. It's difficult to listen to because its all a bunch of bullsh*t.
Wait a moment...
Overly elaborate? Easily misinterpreted? Self-Indulgent? Difficult to listen to because its bullsh*t?
Sounds like...MARS VOLTA
Hell you should love the news in that case. |
Hahahah you people are sooooo predictable like that. I knew you'd make some sort of connection in that manner. I'm glad you share your opinions with our modern media with me. However, again, to each his own, if its your opinion that TMV suck, then that's your opinion. And lets see....hmmm.....Your little comments seem to be overly elaborate...and the self satisfying insulting of others is DEFINITELY self-indulgent...And I'm finding your bullsh*t difficult to listen to......HMMMMMMMMMMM.........
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Meddler
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:21 |
The Miracle wrote:
Last thing:
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Inclusion of classical pieces on albums. For example, Yes start their
concerts with a taped extract of Stravinsky's Firebird suite, and
Emerson Lake and Palmer have performed arrangements of pieces by
Copland, Bartók, Moussorgsky, Prokofiev, Janacek, Alberto Ginastera,
and often feature quotes from J. S. Bach in lead breaks. Jethro Tull
recorded a famous cover of J. S. Bach's "Bouree", in which they turned
the classical piece into a "sleazy jazzy night-club song", according to
Ian Anderson. Marillion started concerts with Rossini's La Gazza Ladra
(The Thieving Magpie). Symphony X has included parts by, or inspired
by, Beethoven, Holst and Mozart
Well, no, but neither did Genesis, Gentle Giant and Pink Floyd.
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...But they do play the Doctor Who theme at concerts.
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Tenth Chaffinch
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:18 |
The news doesnt force opinions on you, it simply conveys them in an overly elaborate, easy to misinterpret, and self-indulgent way. It's difficult to listen to because its all a bunch of bullsh*t.
Wait a moment...
Overly elaborate? Easily misinterpreted? Self-Indulgent? Difficult to listen to because its bullsh*t?
Sounds like...MARS VOLTA
Hell you should love the news in that case.
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:17 |
Last thing: Are TMV apogressive by PA's definition? -
Long compositions, sometimes running over 20 minutes, with intricate
melodies and harmonies that require repeated listening to grasp. These
are often described as epics and are the genre's clearest nod to
classical music. An early example is the 23-minute "Echoes" by Pink
Floyd. Other famous examples include Jethro Tull's "Thick as a Brick"
(43 minutes), Yes' "Close to the Edge" (18 minutes) and Genesis'
"Supper's Ready" (23 minutes). More recent extreme examples are the
60-minute "Light of Day, Day of Darkness" by Green Carnation and
"Garden of Dreams" by The Flower Kings.
Cassandra Geminni. Nuff said.
- Lyrics that convey intricate and sometimes impenetrable narratives,
covering such themes as science fiction, fantasy, history, religion,
war, love, and madness. Many early 1970s progressive rock bands
(especially German ones) featured lyrics concerned with left-wing
politics and social issues.
They cover love revenge, life after death and fantasy(a person going through a coma is the concept of De-loused)
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Concept albums, in which a theme or storyline is explored throughout an
entire album in a manner similar to a film or a play. In the days of
vinyl, these were usually two-record sets with strikingly designed
gatefold sleeves. Famous examples include The Lamb Lies Down on
Broadway by Genesis, Tales from Topographic Oceans by Yes, 2112 by
Rush, Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall by Pink Floyd, and the more
recent Metropolis Part II: Scenes from a Memory by Dream Theater and
Snow by Spock's Beard. Aqualung, perhaps the best-known record by
Jethro Tull, is often regarded as a concept album due to its recurring
themes, but songwriter Ian Anderson has always claimed that the album
is just "a bunch of songs".
Both of their albums have obscure and deep concepts about love, hate, revenge, etc......-
Unusual vocal styles and use of multi-part vocal harmonies. See Magma, Robert Wyatt, and Gentle Giant.
Mirenda, Cassandra Geminni, L'via, and much more........
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Prominent use of electronic instrumentation — particularly keyboard
instruments such as the organ, piano, Mellotron, and Moog synthesizer,
in addition to the usual rock combination of electric guitar, bass and
drums.
Great keyboard work, especially on FTM.
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Use of unusual time signatures, scales, or tunings. Many pieces use
multiple time signatures and/or tempi, sometimes concurrently. Solo
passages for virtually every instrument, designed to showcase the
virtuosity of the player. This is the sort of thing that contributed to
the fame of such performers as keyboardist Rick Wakeman and drummer
Neil Peart.
All the time. Read my review for comments on their incredible musicianship
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Inclusion of classical pieces on albums. For example, Yes start their
concerts with a taped extract of Stravinsky's Firebird suite, and
Emerson Lake and Palmer have performed arrangements of pieces by
Copland, Bartók, Moussorgsky, Prokofiev, Janacek, Alberto Ginastera,
and often feature quotes from J. S. Bach in lead breaks. Jethro Tull
recorded a famous cover of J. S. Bach's "Bouree", in which they turned
the classical piece into a "sleazy jazzy night-club song", according to
Ian Anderson. Marillion started concerts with Rossini's La Gazza Ladra
(The Thieving Magpie). Symphony X has included parts by, or inspired
by, Beethoven, Holst and Mozart
Well, no, but neither did Genesis, Gentle Giant and Pink Floyd.
- An aesthetic linking the music with visual art, a trend started by
The Beatles with Sgt. Pepper's and enthusiastically embraced during the
prog heyday. Some bands became as well-known for the art direction of
their albums as for their sound, with the "look" integrated into the
band's overall musical identity. This led to fame for particular
artists and design studios, most notably Roger Dean, whose paintings
and logo design for Yes are so essential to the band's identity they
could be said to serve the same function as corporate branding.
Hipgnosis became equally famous for their unusual sleeves for Pink
Floyd, often featuring experimental photography quite innovative for
the time (two men shaking hands, one of whom is in flames, on the cover
of Wish You Were Here). H.R. Giger's painting for Emerson Lake and
Palmer's Brain Salad Surgery is one of the most famous album sleeves
ever produced.
Their sleeves are masterpieces by Storm
Edited by The Miracle - April 23 2006 at 00:17
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:14 |
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Well, that's your opinion isn't it? No need to force it down the throats of others, especially those who are fans. Trust me, it won't get you anywhere. The forcing of opinions is why I don't even watch news anymore.
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Tenth Chaffinch
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:13 |
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Mars Volta is wierd for the sake of wierd. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Ghandi 2
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:12 |
Zoso wrote:
I'm ignoring that. |
Aha, but by saying that you're ignoring it, you are in fact responding to it, which means you are not ignoring it. Gotcha! :P
Tenth Chaffinch wrote:
I thought adults could move on. Apparently Mars Volta fans can't. I pity you. |
Stop being an ass.
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:10 |
Tenth Chaffinch wrote:
I stated my opinion, I apologise. I thought adults could move on. Apparently Mars Volta fans can't. I pity you. |
Their music is complex, with epics, concept, etc, which is against punk's moral. No punk could ever write something as monumentally beautiful as Cassandra Geminni. You also said their lyrics are nonsense, that's also wrong; chech the thread I linked to above 
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:06 |
By the way, Tenth Chaffinch, I'm not here to start any arguments. (damn my font's stuck). Anyways, no one here is stupid or of poor knowledge of music, this is a PROG site, being on it surely means something. And I'm trying to help end the arguments....and make the conversation....dare I say....progress? (sorry if i double post my stupid comp is messed up)
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Zoso
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Posted: April 23 2006 at 00:05 |
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I'm ignoring that.
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