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W.Chuck 
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Joined: October 27 2005 Status: Offline Points: 606 |
 Posted: April 18 2006 at 12:22 |
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thanks, I guess it was just an inadvertence.
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Tuzvihar
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 18 2005 Location: C. Schinesghe Status: Offline Points: 13536 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 17:01 |
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DEEP PURPLE "Made In Japan"  by kazimir
I give one star to Deep Purple, Made in Japan because it contains the song Child in Time which is plagiarism of the song Bombay Calling from the first, self-titled album of the San Francisco based rock band It's a beautiful day. The readers are adviced not to buy this record. 
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Antennas
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Joined: February 01 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 17:12 |
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And another one:  Proto-Prog (Studio Album, 1970) Avg: 4.25/5 from --- ratings DEEP PURPLE "In Rock" I give one star to Deep Purple, Made in Japan because it contains the song Child in Time which is plagiarism of the song Bombay Calling from the first, self-titled album of the San Francisco based rock band It's a beautiful day. The readers are adviced not to buy this record.
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Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either |
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer 
Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 17:18 |
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 Proto-Prog (Live, 1972) Avg: 4.35/5 from --- ratings by kazimir
I give one star to Deep Purple, Made in Japan because it contains the song Child in Time which is plagiarism of the song Bombay Calling from the first, self-titled album of the San Francisco based rock band It's a beautiful day. The readers are adviced not to buy this record.
Indeed , Antennas and Tuzvihar, do we except this level of reviewing
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Man Made God
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Joined: March 21 2006 Status: Offline Points: 380 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 17:20 |
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Damn, you people are fast
 I just came by here to let the admins & mods know about this 'reviewer'. Well, in that case: cool review of Made in Japan Erik! Makes me even more anxious to hear them! |
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Focus on the music... Focus! |
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Antennas
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Joined: February 01 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 331 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 17:27 |
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*Seconded* |
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Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either |
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 17:29 |
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Thanks. fellow Dutchman, we are lucky to have such a great festival! |
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Man Made God
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Joined: March 21 2006 Status: Offline Points: 380 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 18:08 |
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Ok, I was just about to copy paste the next review of 'kazimir' here...
But then I saw the real name of the reviewer |
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Focus on the music... Focus! |
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Atkingani
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 18:48 |
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Doh...
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KazimirMajorinc
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Joined: February 23 2006 Status: Offline Points: 71 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 19:30 |
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Now, guys, can I get some clarification what's wrong with my review of Deep Purple?
The Child in Time is obvious plagiarism and I guess it is OK to state it clearly. Also, it is quite a usual practice that works containing plagiarism cannot pass, no matter of the quality of the rest of the material. In fact it is unusal to do other way. So, what's going on here? |
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Atkingani
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 19:42 |
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Well, you said everything "works containing plagiarism cannot pass"; in this case also, either reviews were equal. |
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 20:16 |
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Please delete the Tool 10,000 Days review!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That album doesn't come out for a month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=75401 This dude says NOTHING about the music,and the album cover art isn't even officially released yet!!!!! Edited by TheProgtologist |
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Atkingani
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 20:57 |
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Dealt with...
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KazimirMajorinc
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Joined: February 23 2006 Status: Offline Points: 71 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 21:18 |
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Atkingani, I don't think it is appropriate answer.
I'll try again - where is the problem, and what should I do to make my reviews of these two albums acceptable? As far as I see, they satisfy all rules - except maybe for one unsubstantial mistake in one of them. I assure you and other readers that I wrote these reviews and posts in good will, and according to my best knowledge. |
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The Miracle
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Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 21:31 |
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And yet, Child In Time manages to remain one of the greatest hard rock compositions ever.
Are you sure you're not mistaken? I've never heard about this anowhere else, being a huge Purple fan for years now. To make your reviews acceptable, mention something about the music, quality of that music and musicianship. Just saying that the whole album sucks because of one song being (agruably) plagiarized won't do. |
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Atkingani
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 21:31 |
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In fact, you provided the answer, Kazimir. However, I'm inviting you to do write and resubmit the 2 deleted reviews. I'm totally sure you are able to write reviews in the same way you did for Bacamarte's album.
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KazimirMajorinc
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Joined: February 23 2006 Status: Offline Points: 71 |
Posted: April 18 2006 at 23:57 |
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If you do not believe me, well, try it for yourself. By the way, Gillan admitted it recently.
In less official form like forum, I can comment that Japan and In Rock are otherwise excelent works. However, such comment has no place in a review, because it is unfair that plagiator get any praise for his work until the problem is removed. In fact, if anything should be deleted, it has more sense to delete reviews that ignore the plagiarism fact, because they perpetuate injustice done by essentially criminal act. Of course, its not up to me to define progarchives policy. Oh, well, nothing I can do ... |
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The Miracle
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Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
Posted: April 19 2006 at 01:19 |
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Yeah, I must admit there is a striking resemblance
 But that's just the intro verse, the rest of the song is absolutely superb, isn't it? And I like CIT more than Bombay Calling
Don't be so harsh!  What's wrong with my review if I didn't know it? Perhaps they should put in the booklet "Includes Bombay Calling by It's a beautiful day", like Pink Floyd put in the Meddle booklet "Includes You'll Never Walk Alone by Rogers & Hammestein". Purple made 18 albums, during their excellent 40 year career, and they're still one of the most influential hard rock bands out there... you could forgive them one little thing... nobody's perfect Edited by The Miracle |
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: April 19 2006 at 01:42 |
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we have a quite serious spamming situation,I can say
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This is another album that a time listened to... It will do it enchant yourselves some Classic Music of XX Century! It is not of evening an album Symphonic, because has a lot pf sub genre inclusive in this eternal Masterpiece. That genius Robert Fripp! "21st Century Schizoid Man including Mirrors" is a piece of Prog Metal (like a lot make note me), even if is too Prog! Large everything, but above all Fripp and Lake (listened to attentive the test of Giles at the drum, also), "I Talk To The Wind" is a sweet example of Pure Symphonic Prog, really immortal (is an of the better songs of the Crimson), "Epitaph including March For No Reason and Tomorrow And Tomorrow" is a piece to the VDGG that nevertheless can be put next to the pieces of Genesis (Gabriel Era), Gentle Giant without disfigure. And yet it is a song with a large personality! Besides it is totally different from "21st Century..." showing that the Prog has a lot (too much?) sub genre that often are alone variations of a same sub genre also to the inside of a same sub genre (hope to have expressed well the concept...). "Moonchild including The Dream and The Illusion" begins with a Jazz that in reality is not Jazz but Classic Music with a large work of Giles. Nevertheless then it it becomes too Psychedelic, improvvisation, Jazz free form, Futurism and Japanese music. Well, a sole many piece of Canterbury Scene! It Closes "The Court Of The Crimson king including The Return Of The Fire Witch and The Dance Of The Puppets" that return to the Hard Rock but if with enormous amounts of the Uriah Heep more Prog and an atmosphere a little one (but very little) more (and this is weird) cheerful. That album, mister, that album! It does not seem not even carved in 1969! For always yours, Mandrakeroot ---- PORCUPINE TREE "Insignificance (K7)" by
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The Miracle
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Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
Posted: April 19 2006 at 01:43 |
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What the hell is up with Andrea lately?
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