4 Corners of 70’s PROG

If one is not familar with Clearlight, Lard Free, Heldon, Travelling, Triode, Ose, Ange, Atoll, Anachroid, Alain Markusfeld, Jean-Luc Ponty, Jean-Michael Jarre, Carpe Diem, Pentacle, Magma, Francois Breant, Weidorje, Patrick Gauthier, Gong, etc. Its not my fault that you belittle the 70's influence from France on Progressive Fusion.

I consider the american influence as being part of the english movement. Belgium and Holland as cross pollenation from England and France. Canadian as cross from english, american and french. most central and northern european as basically from mostly German, then English influences. Italian as the major force in southern europe. And Spain a mixture. Perhaps Spain and/or Scandi and/or American forming 6 or 7 corners. Who knows just wanted to get some feedback. The 4 I mentioned seemed to be fruitful and original enough to stand on their own merits. Perhaps I could say that 60's American Psyche really had an influence on all the above.

 

No offense, but that 4 corners idea just doesn't sound right.  It's admirable to do so, but there's way too much over-analyzing on this site.

You can inspect and investigate a flower, but will destroy it in the process.  Sometimes art doesn't make sense under a microscope.  It works on a entirely different level.

 

micky wrote: Sacred 22 wrote: England seems to have produced the biggest crop of prog bands. There must be something about the stiff upper lip that produced all those prog greats from merry ol' England. Great music to be sure, but thier cars,.................well, that's another story............ maybe it was the food.. coupled with some great beer...  just a thought

Certainly the beer has to be considered. Lots of kids in England were trained in classical music as well and coupled with thier speaking english gave them easier language access to the huge North American market. Look at YES for instance, they covered a Paul Simon tune (America....killer tune the way YES does it I might add) in anticipation for the big American markets they and others were yearning to tap into.

Sacred 22 wrote: micky wrote: Sacred 22 wrote: England seems to have produced the biggest crop of prog bands. There must be something about the stiff upper lip that produced all those prog greats from merry ol' England. Great music to be sure, but thier cars,.................well, that's another story............ maybe it was the food.. coupled with some great beer...  just a thought Certainly the beer has to be considered. Lots of kids in England were trained in classical music as well and coupled with thier speaking english gave them easier language access to the huge North American market. Look at YES for instance, they covered a Paul Simon tune (America....killer tune the way YES does it I might add) in anticipation for the big American markets they and others were yearning to tap into.

I always thought that classical tradition and education was a factor in why prog has really been a euro-centric genre. Not just for  the musicians but the fans as well.

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I always thought that classical tradition and education was a factor in why prog has really been a euro-centric genre. Not just for  the musicians but the fans as well.
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Yes, and living here in western Canada is proof of that.

Beautiful place, but musically removed by light years to even eastern Canada, let alone Europe.

so, it can only get better........................right?

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for us here in the states... a big Hell No it won't.. at least for awhile..

hopefully  you have had it better than the next generation here in the states will have it.  With 'No Child Left Behind' such 'unnecessary' education such as music are devalued while teachers teach students math and language to pass required EOY tests.  Another great example of W's foresight to the future.....

micky wrote: Sacred 22 wrote: I always thought that classical tradition and education was a factor in why prog has really been a euro-centric genre. Not just for  the musicians but the fans as well.

Yes, and living here in western Canada is proof of that.

Beautiful place, but musically removed by light years to even eastern Canada, let alone Europe.

so, it can only get better........................right?

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for us here in the states... a big Hell No it won't.. at least for awhile..

hopefully  you have had it better than the next generation here in the states will have it.  With 'No Child Left Behind' such 'unnecessary' education such as music are devalued while teachers teach students math and language to pass required EOY tests.  Another great example of W's foresight to the future.....
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Double YA is nothing more than a simple puppet. Things are going to get a hell of alot worse before they get any better. I am old enough to know the difference and I find it depressing. I feel for the kids.

 

micky wrote: Sacred 22 wrote: Double YA is nothing more than a simple puppet. Things are going to get a hell of alot worse before they get any better. I am old enough to know the difference and I find it depressing. I feel for the kids.   I think you have a few more miles  on the odometer than I do hahaha.. but I agree... I really don't like the way things are.. and seem to be progressing.  My mother and I were talking the other night, she made the point that this country today.. is not the same one she grew up in.  You know... it's not the same one I grew up in as well.  I have three children in the school system, so I do lie awake at night thinking of things like this... and I just wonder what lies in the future....hard to be optimistic.. and I'm a very positive thinking person.

Basically the world is run by the World Bank and they finance everything from local terror to international terror and anything else them deem important. The CIA enforces and or over sees the the wishes of the World Bank and that's about it in a nut shell. No, it does not look at all promising and I know a few people who have decided to educate their kids themselves. Sad when you can't trust the institutions that your tax dollars pay for.

Big Brother does most of their dirty work thru the media and TV is the biggest mind manipulator they have. By the way, music will be one of the first casualties of the "New World Order". That should be obvious to most people.

Anyway, it's one huge can of worms.

Incidently, if you listen to the album Magnification by YES you can hear the concern that is expressed via Jons lyrics. He and a few others are doing thier best to inform people, but I'm afraid the average person will never know.