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Dick Heath
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Joined: April 19 2004
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Posted: September 26 2004 at 17:35 |
richardh wrote:
Maddy Prior sung with Mike Oldfield's band so she could be brought under the category of Prog. |
On that basis everybody who came in contact with prog is prog - then
let's go daft: punk band Stranglers had Fripp, Hammill and Hillage
front them once, when Hugh Cornwall was in jail, ergo The Stranglers are Prog and Punk and ????? No I don't think so.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: September 26 2004 at 18:58 |
Dick Heath wrote:
richardh wrote:
Maddy Prior sung with Mike Oldfield's band so she could be brought under the category of Prog. |
On that basis everybody who came in contact with prog is prog - then let's go daft: punk band Stranglers had Fripp, Hammill and Hillage front them once, when Hugh Cornwall was in jail, ergo The Stranglers are Prog and Punk and ????? No I don't think so.
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Come on Dick.Maddy Prior sang on a prog album didnt she?
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richardh
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 02:24 |
The Stranglers were 'punk prog'.Everyone knows that!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 06:22 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Dick Heath wrote:
richardh wrote:
Maddy Prior sung with Mike Oldfield's band so she could be brought under the category of Prog. |
On that basis everybody who came in contact with prog is prog - then let's go daft: punk band Stranglers had Fripp, Hammill and Hillage front them once, when Hugh Cornwall was in jail, ergo The Stranglers are Prog and Punk and ????? No I don't think so.
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Come on Dick.Maddy Prior sang on a prog album didn't she?
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I think you miss my point. Maddy Prior is an out and out Anglo Scot folk singer, primarily. I've seen her several times, and there no obvious prog is in her repertoise. Was Sandy Denny a heavy rock singer because she sang on a Led Zep album - no she was an Anglo Scott folk singer too.
Check Stranglers & friend's Live album for contributions from Fripp, Hillage and Hammill, do punk numbers (it is a most enjoyable album in part, because of the mixture of musical styles). Most certainly I wouldn't accuse Fripp and Hillage of being punk - Hammill has had his moments though, perhaps explaining Johnny Rotten's liking for Van Der Graaf Generator.
I think it is odd to place a musician under the heading of 'Prog', because they guested or sessioned on a prog album or two, while the majority of thier fans know he/she for a specific type of music. Keith Tippett is one of Britain's most important free jazz musicians, but played with Krimson. John Surman, arguably the greatest jazz saxophonist to come out of the UK in 30 years, has been heard as a session player for Nice's recordings. And so.
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richardh
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 11:14 |
Maddy Prior actually toured with Mike Oldfield.Maybe she is folk primarily but she did more than just make a session appearance on an Oldfield album. I never realised my innocent comment would cause such a problem.
Dare I say that Toyah Wilcox should also be included as she is married to a prog rocker!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 12:52 |
richardh wrote:
Maddy Prior actually toured with Mike Oldfield.Maybe she is folk primarily but she did more than just make a session appearance on an Oldfield album. I never realised my innocent comment would cause such a problem.
Dare I say that Toyah Wilcox should also be included as she is married to a prog rocker!
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No problem rather a plead not to get carried away including people who are better known for another musical genre. Strangely enough (no I lie, differently not in this case) Toyah is also on that Stranglers & Friends album - but thank goodness not singing with her hubby (and I use the word 'singing' loosely here).
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Easy Livin
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Joined: February 21 2004
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 14:54 |
Richard, Dick.
It was once suggested in another thread that you were one and the same person. I guess you've just put that theory to rest.
Unless of course you're a raging Schizophrenic!
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richardh
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Posted: September 27 2004 at 17:35 |
I prefer to be known as a 21st Century Schizoid Man!
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: September 28 2004 at 05:04 |
I'm still sticking with Kate, but one name is sadly lacking in the discussion so far, because the band never got the international acclaim they deserved. I'm talking about Jerney Kaagman of Dutch legends Earth and Fire.
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harry's toenail
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Posted: September 28 2004 at 09:48 |
I'd like to put in Barbara Gaskin, Ann Rosenthal and Amanda Parsons for a mention [Hatfield & the North]. I'm also pretty fond of Catherine Ribeiro's singing, though I could see how she wouldn't be to everyone's taste. And Ellen Meyer from Tomorrow's Gift!
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 28 2004 at 10:57 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
There are precious few in this male-dominated genre! Kate Bush or Annie Haslam gets the nod....
My fave overall (non-prog) female vox?
Annie Lennox
Maddy Prior
Kate Rusby
Karen Matheson
But Peter, you ask, who are the last two?
Peasants!
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Glad someone mentioned Karen Matheson Lovely voice. I had forgotten about Cappercaile. Time to dig out 'Secret People' I think.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: September 28 2004 at 11:57 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
There are precious few in this male-dominated genre! Kate Bush or Annie Haslam gets the nod....
My fave overall (non-prog) female vox?
Annie Lennox
Maddy Prior
Kate Rusby
Karen Matheson
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Peter
Somehow I figured at least one form: Doris Day Connie Francis and Rosemary Clunnie would be on your list.
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 10:46 |
I LOVE Annie Haslam!!!
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
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ProgFan
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 10:51 |
I miss Kate Bush in this poll
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ANDREW
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 11:18 |
You forgot Linda Hoyle from AFFINITY.
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progadicto
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 11:43 |
I voted for Annie Haslam but my favourite female prog singer is SARAH TRONDALL from White Willow...
Other great voices:
KATE BUSH, MAGGIE REILLY, MADDY PRIOR, CLARE TORRY, ARLETTE JECQUIER (chilean singer from FULANO, queen of scat), ANNIE LENNOX (pop music, I know, but WHAT A VOICE!)...
And the superb, gloomy, dark and terrific voice of Ms. DIAMANDA GALAS... She is the best!!
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... E N E L B U N K E R...
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Rocktopus
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 11:52 |
Sonia Kristina. Not so underrated anymore? Very happy to see a poll she
where she's on top (Thanks to my vote). Annie Haslam's perfect voice
sometimes gets on my nerves, and Curved Air's music is much more fun.
Sonia might have gotten harder competition if the female vocalists in
Pentangle, Spirogyra and Amon Düül II were in the poll.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Joolz
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:38 |
Rocktopus wrote:
Sonia Kristina. Not so underrated anymore? Very happy to see a poll she
where she's on top (Thanks to my vote). Annie Haslam's perfect voice
sometimes gets on my nerves, and Curved Air's music is much more fun.
Sonia might have gotten harder competition if the female vocalists in
Pentangle, Spirogyra and Amon Düül II were in the poll.
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Dirk
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Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Netherlands
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Points: 1043
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:49 |
ShrinkingViolet wrote:
Heather Findlay and shes not on the list
sensational voice thats sweet and inspirational.
This lady deserves to recognised..shes apart of Mostly Autumn, sang at the Magicians Party with Uriah Heep and she featured on Ayreons new release.
....Cross The Ocean Deep
Wake now from your sleep
Kiss the Past Goodbye....
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Well you beat me to it . I occurs to me that someone who knows Karnataka would certainly know Mostly Autumn and so put Heather Findlay in the poll... So Heather Findlay it is . BTW Rachel Jones has a great voice but Karnataka is not a very interesting band. They had a few great songs though.
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el böthy
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Location: Argentina
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 18:24 |
Marcela Bovio and Heather Findlay...both did an amazing work in Ayreon´s Human Equation
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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