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kebjourman 
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 Topic: the rolling stones
Posted: April 10 2006 at 19:46 |
i like the stones.
i've noticed that alot of you guys seem to hate them.
WHY?
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memowakeman
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 20:14 |
I do not love them, i do not hate them...
A Legendary band, with great songs, but not my cup of coffee, they were in Mexico city last february, i didnt get excited... so i vote for theyre ok
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Dr Know
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 22:07 |
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I think the reason why most dismiss The Stones is because they are all very average musicians, a bit like U2 in a way. There isn´t much to get worked up about. Like who says "That drummer is great" or "Listen to that solo" It´s too simple.
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Trotsky
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 23:28 |
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They do have many great songs ... 40-50 of them, unfortunately the vast majority dates from 1965 to 1973 ...
After that they became a cabaret act, IMO ... and the loss of Brian Jones' innovative instrumentation and then that of Mick Taylor's playing meant that the band from then on was solid, but not specatular ...
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Zac M
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 23:50 |
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I like them, used to like them a whole lot actually.
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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glass house
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 03:56 |
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They're great, they use to be. They should have stopped long ago. Favourites songs : Mothers Little Helper ( great lyrics ) and Paint it Black.
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el böthy
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 19:58 |
Its really hard for an argentinian to say that he doen´t like the Stones...because Argentina is (and this is no joke) the country with most Stones fans...of the world!!!
I dont like them...used to...then I discovered prog
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ANDREW
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 20:17 |
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They are great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 20:27 |
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They used to be awesome,one of the great rock n roll bands.
But they should have hung it up awhile ago.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 20:50 |
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Ehh...i never saw the hype.
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 21:17 |
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I think they're ok.
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Syzygy
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 09:29 |
 Trotsky wrote:
They do have many great songs ... 40-50 of them, unfortunately the vast majority dates from 1965 to 1973 ...
After that they became a cabaret act, IMO ... and the loss of Brian Jones' innovative instrumentation and then that of Mick Taylor's playing meant that the band from then on was solid, but not specatular ... |
 - then there's the way that they've turned into a ham fisted Rollong Stones tribute act. Good for the first 10 years of their career, a long decline ever since.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Guillermo
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 10:40 |
They are O.K. but... Jagger and Richards have never been good mates with the rest of the members / former members of the band. That is the most important bad point about them, IMO. For example, I read that Bill Wyman said that the song "Jumpin`Jack Flash" was started during a jam by him, Brian Jones and Charlie Watts, when the other two didn`t arrive to the rehearsal. The other two arrived later, heard what the others were playing, liked the music, and composed part of the song, but... when the song was released, the composers were listed as "Jagger / Richards, and the other three were not credited for their original idea.
Brian Jones was very underrated by the band despite all his contributions in arrangements and he played a lot of different instruments to their best songs of their career (1963-1968).
Mick Taylor was a very good lead guitarist, but he maybe was bored because the only songs the Stones recorded were composed by Jagger / Richards.
If someone wants an example of "Rock and Roll Dictatorship", Jagger / Richards are the best example, IMO.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 11:26 |
Syzygy wrote:
Trotsky wrote:
They do have many great songs ... 40-50 of them, unfortunately the vast majority dates from 1965 to 1973 ...
After that they became a cabaret act, IMO ... and the loss of Brian Jones' innovative instrumentation and then that of Mick Taylor's playing meant that the band from then on was solid, but not specatular ... |
- then there's the way that they've turned into a ham fisted Rollong Stones tribute act. Good for the first 10 years of their career, a long decline ever since.
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Agreed with you Chris and Martin >> their better tracks are up to 74 after which Taylor left.
Their best album is Let It Bleed
I would stretch the list of correct STONES years up to 78 and the Some Girls album (their last worthy one, even if I like also 86's Dirty Work), but since that era is now long-gone
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 14:22 |
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Never saw the big deal. I understand that they are important in the evolution of rock & roll, but their music isn't very good. "Paint It Black" is the only song I've ever liked by them.
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Zargus
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Posted: April 13 2006 at 06:28 |
Well no one can argue about the greatness of albums like Beggars banquet, let it bleed, sticky fingers & exile on main st, some of the greatest rock albums of all time, so i have to say they are great or they was great in the 60's & 70's then after that it was 
Edited by Zargus - June 17 2006 at 07:38
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Dick Heath
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Posted: April 13 2006 at 06:51 |
Guillermo wrote:
Mick Taylor was a very good lead guitarist, but
he maybe was bored because the only songs the Stones recorded were
composed by Jagger / Richards.
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I think Taylor eventually got totally pissed by Jagger literally
pulling the plug on his guitar solo - Jagger didn't want too much
spotlight on other members of the band - and then the matey/matey
arrangement of borrowing Ron Wood from the Faces probably provided the
straw that broke.......
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Kord
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Posted: June 17 2006 at 04:07 |
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they are great
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