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the man machine 
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Joined: January 01 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 138 |
 Posted: April 05 2006 at 11:58 |
Yes , that is very true. I am not really thinking about this as an an argument in court. What i am saying is based on my opinion of the situation and not what i think would be a convincing argument in a court trial. I dont really know the much about copyright law but it seems that it needs revising. |
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Dirk
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1043 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 14:59 |
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I found a link to a nice dutch site that sheds some light on what's possible in the Netherlands:
http://www.digimuziek.nl/index.html I will call this site digi in the rest of this post. There's a lot info here on legal issues, legal music download sites, internet radios, p2p programs and the latest news about legislation for p2p. Some facts from digi: - Downloading is legal in the Netherlands. - Uploading is illegal in the Netherlands. This means that russian sites like Allofmp3 and similar sites that are listed on digi are totally legal here because there's no uploading involved. Mind you digi is doubtfull if any money for records purchased on these russian sites will ever reach the artist. A p2p like emule is illegal because it'll automatically upload while you're downloading. The latest news on digi concerning 2 other countries in the EU is interesting: In France they are preparing a law that forbids downloading as well as uploading. In Germany similar legislation is prepared. If this law is passed inhabitants of Germany risk inprisonment for 2 to 5 years (!). For these sentences to be applied the offence has to be severe though .There is a german link www.heise.de So Mike's concern about the risks of illegally downloading mp3's in his country is (or will be) well founded. My conclusion about legal music download sites in the Netherlands based on digi: The situation is not too good here, apart from the cheap russian sites eMusic is the best bet. You can subscribe to this service for $9.99 a month, in return you can get 40 downloads. I think these are tracks and not albums(digi is not totally clear what exactly constitutes a download). This falls well short to Napster where you can download and listen to everything as long as you pay your monthly subscription. Anyway i can't reach their site http://www.emusic.com/?fref=150286 This has indeed been a very useful thread, it has clarified my thoughts on and expanded my knowledge about all these issues.  |
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Trickster F.
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Joined: February 10 2006 Location: Belize Status: Offline Points: 5308 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 16:12 |
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Firepuck
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Joined: February 28 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 657 |
Posted: April 05 2006 at 16:39 |
Especially if it's not against the law in the first place. |
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