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    Posted: April 02 2006 at 05:08

There's a similar thread which asks if Queen are a prog band. I think that a question on the album level makes more sense ...

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BTW: I think that Queen II is a very progressive album, artistically it is on the same level as the other genre "benchmarks" of the 70s.
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By every definition, Queen II is a progressive album. Just listen to March of the Black Queen or Fairy Tellers-master stroke.
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I was just listening to Queen II the other day, and it really struck me how uneven the "proginess" on that album is. Everytime I hear "The March of the Black Queen" (neo-classical prog masterpiece) seque into "Funny How Love Is" (Phil Spector-esque "wall of sound", with painfully trite lyrics), it completely baffles me.

I'd say it's largely progressive, with the following exceptions:

Some Day One Day, Loser in the End, and Funny How Love Is

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YES IS IT .AND IT IS THE MOST PROGRESSIVE ALBUM  QUEEN EVER MADE.
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YUP!!!!!!!!
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Points: 218 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2006 at 20:42
Definetely.   I don't care if you call the band prog or not, but Queen II is easily as, and more, progressive as the majority of the albums on this site.
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Yes I think so, and its a masterpiece.
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I've not heard it and I was actually a Queen fan in the '80s!

I love Queen's self titled debut though, Great King Rat and other such great rock tunes.  I'll have to acquire Queen II somehow.
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Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

I was just listening to Queen II the other day, and it really struck me how uneven the "proginess" on that album is. Everytime I hear "The March of the Black Queen" (neo-classical prog masterpiece) seque into "Funny How Love Is" (Phil Spector-esque "wall of sound", with painfully trite lyrics), it completely baffles me.

I'd say it's largely progressive, with the following exceptions:

Some Day One Day, Loser in the End, and Funny How Love Is

Fair comment, but wouldn't you agree that many ELP albums are peppered with 'non prog' songs?

I think Queen II is arguably their most 'proggy' album, there are some tracks on there that I would regard as`pure prog, but I wouldn't say that about most of their albums. Great band, nonetheless.
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Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

"Funny How Love Is" (Phil Spector-esque "wall of sound", with painfully trite lyrics), it completely baffles me. 

'Funny How Love is' is one of my favourite Queen songs and because of the way they recorded it I can't listen to 'March of the Black Queen' without it, The sudden contrast in sound, mood and style is very uplifting, Actually, you could say that for most of the album!!

But yes, I very much think the first two Queen albums are very strong progressive rock albums. 'A Night at the Opera' has huge prog influences but I wouldn't say it's a fully progressive album, Some may disagree though.

Queen are excellent, No mater what genre they are put under, They're one of the greatest bands ever.

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Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

"Funny How Love Is" (Phil Spector-esque "wall of sound", with painfully trite lyrics), it completely baffles me. 

'Funny How Love is' is one of my favourite Queen songs and because of the way they recorded it I can't listen to 'March of the Black Queen' without it, The sudden contrast in sound, mood and style is very uplifting, Actually, you could say that for most of the album!!

But yes, I very much think the first two Queen albums are very strong progressive rock albums. 'A Night at the Opera' has huge prog influences but I wouldn't say it's a fully progressive album, Some may disagree though.

Queen are excellent, No mater what genre they are put under, They're one of the greatest bands ever.

I cant listen to 'March..' without it being preceeded by 'Nevermore'  A beautiful song which is like an intro into 'MOTBQ'

I dont like 'Funny how love is' much, though..
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

"Funny How Love Is" (Phil Spector-esque "wall of sound", with painfully trite lyrics), it completely baffles me. 

'Funny How Love is' is one of my favourite Queen songs and because of the way they recorded it I can't listen to 'March of the Black Queen' without it, The sudden contrast in sound, mood and style is very uplifting, Actually, you could say that for most of the album!!

But yes, I very much think the first two Queen albums are very strong progressive rock albums. 'A Night at the Opera' has huge prog influences but I wouldn't say it's a fully progressive album, Some may disagree though.

Queen are excellent, No mater what genre they are put under, They're one of the greatest bands ever.

I cant listen to 'March..' without it being preceeded by 'Nevermore'  A beautiful song which is like an intro into 'MOTBQ'

I dont like 'Funny how love is' much, though..

Really? That's a bit odd to me!

There's a lot of emotion in those short two tracks, They're both excellent really. Queen II is an all round masterpiece in general.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Fair comment, but wouldn't you agree that many ELP albums are peppered with 'non prog' songs?



I've actually managed to steer clear of ELP thus far, believe it or not.
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Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Fair comment, but wouldn't you agree that many ELP albums are peppered with 'non prog' songs?



I've actually managed to steer clear of ELP thus far, believe it or not.

Well done!  

Seek a download of 'Jeremy ender' or 'Are you Ready Eddie' and you'll see what I mean.
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Yes!!! it's the best album they have ever made!

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QUEEN II IS DEFINITELY PROGRESSIVE ROCK.

AND SO IS MAHOGANY RUSH IV.
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What's a "progressive" album?Confused

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The album is so good.

Does it really matter is it prog or not?
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Funny, I've been thinking about this album all week, after listening to it a while ago. It sticks in your mind like that...

Certainly the most prog of all Queen albums, particularly the "black" side. (The original LP had a "white" side and a "black" side - not literally, but labelled as such. You miss these little points with CDs!)

I particularly like "The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke" as I have seen the painting by Richard Dadd which the song is all about. All the characters in the song are to be found in the painting, which Freddie Mercury beautifully describes in his lyrics. Check it out - and there's more info here

As for the Black Queen - a prog classic. She boils and she bakes, and she never dots her i's...

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