No one likes prog!

you have to have an ear for prog

i mean you can dislike it

but never because its not music or talent

YOU WILL DIE if such BULL is sent out

cause you can hate

but to bring it down to such a form of disregard is just.....SINFULL!!

Ghandi 2 wrote: aprusso wrote: The thing is evn worse with classical music, people say they like it (it's bad to say otherwise) but then, how many people actually buy a classical music album, except from the occasional gift or some Beethoven? What's wrong with that? I appreciate Classical, but I'm not going to buy an album anytime soon because: I can listen to Classical 104 (and if you think that the classical station plays the "commercial" classical music than I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective); I can borrow a random classical album for free from my library; lots of people don't buy classical music because there's not a large audience and because of the aforementioned reasons (and they pirate), so classical CDs are expensive. Besides that even though I think Classical is probably the better music, and I do really enjoy listening to it, I don't want to listen to it enough to buy an album.

And for me because all classical albums (or at least the classical albums of the great composers who are long dead) are interpretations of what the composers wrote and I don't like that because 1) it feels like a cover album and if I pay for an album I usually expect the original thing 2) I don't know which interpreters are good and things change from interpreter to interpreter. My friends sent me a bunch of stuff by Prokofiev, Holst, Chopin, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, and maybe some other guys, and I can honestly say I do like classical, but I haven't really set off to explore deep into classical... I need to be in the mood to listen to it and there's other kind of music which does me more.

stan the man wrote: Meddler wrote: People like lyrics about love, or something simple they can apply to their everyday lives. Definately not prog. apparenty people find a love song (written by some swedish guy who no one has ever heard of) sung  by kelly clarkson to be more emotional then something like van der graaf generator or genesis.

Newsflash. Apparently people are stupid.

pero wrote: Lucky for me I was the part of generation who listen to prog. In a highschool everybody was listening to Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd

Its true, prog, even if not mainstream, was popular. Like everyone from your generation has at least heard of Yes, Genesis, etc.  Take today, a large percentage of people haven't even heard of Dream Theater (and thats being genereous since they are one of the most popular prog metal bands, change it to Symphony X or Fates Warning, and a very small percentage have heard of them)

Everybody liked: Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin , Jethro tull.

Well I think one of the biggest differences today is that in the 70s or whatever, even the mainstream bands (aka Zeppelin) were very talented. Today, most music can be played by almost anybody (of course there are some exceptions). But one thing with Deep Purple, their most popular song is quite possibly one of their worst (Smoke on the Water), it has a neat riff but the songs horrible otherwise in my mind. Child in Time is amazing.

Who was once listening to prog in youth keeps hooked for life.

This isn't exactly what you were saying, but the thing that amazes me with prog is its lived on for so long. Its changed form (who woulda guessed heavy metal would be the genre that would become the most progressive), but continues to be popular (even if not on MTV or whatever)

I feel sorry for today's generation (my two sons included), because the music industry produces more and more of brainless music, to make more money, because every generation has to have their own idols.

Theres lots of good newer music out there, the problem is finding it. The internet has been amazing for that (Progarchives has helped me discover so many great bands). Lets just say that Fates Warning , Symphony X, Queensryche, and Tool (and their record companies) have made money from me cus of the internet and file sharing (hear of a good band on progarchives, download some of their stuff, if I like it I buy an album) Luckily, most of my friends like either metal, prog, or both, so I get to find out about a lot of good music through them, and I also get quite a bit from my Dad who has a lot of good prog in his CD collection.

But even among teenagers today, Zepellin is  really popular (they're not my personal favourite, but at least they have talent), Floyd is also pretty big, and even Yes (Genesis  doesn't seem to get much recognition for some reason, maybe because their reputation was kind of tarnished by their mainstream stuff and people don't realize they were one of the key prog bands) Gentle Giant, Camel, or even King Crimson on the other hand, hardly anyones heard of.

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I think most people are unwilling to accept any kind of art- whether it be music, movies, novels, etc. that is outside of the commercial stuff they have been spoon-fed since birth.  I've noticed time and again that the majority of the people I've met will criticize artsy films and good music- they actually think its bad cause its not like anything they've seen/heard.

Now on the other hand there are some people who don't like prog for legitimate reasons, it just doesn't appeal to them.  I have no problem with that- similarly, I accept fans of classical music to accept that it doesn't appeal to me.

The majority of people don't seem to care much about thinking for themselves, and in such an extreme case, I blame society.

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martinprog77 wrote: Fusioned wrote: My family hates it, none of my friends like it, and my (now) ex-girlfriend despised prog rock music. But as I sit here listening to Yes - Close to the Edge I think to myself....how can someone hate this song? Music will never get any better than this. Ever. So why does everyone hate prog so much? I don't understand...oh well. At least with no girlfriend I can blast Saga as loud as I want!!! it happen to me pretty much the same think .but you know what i rather listen to prog that anything that is on mtv or crap like that.people like ricky martin AND I ALEAYSi think''THANK GOD YOU GIVE PROG TO FILL MY HEART ,BODY AND SOUL''PS:MY WIFE DIDNT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HELL WAS PROG ROCK ABOUT?.NOW TWO YEARS LATER SHE LOVES CAMEL GENESIS AND THE FLOWER KINGS.

 

yeah. i had the same thing happen with my wife. outwardly she says she can't stand prog, but lo and behold who was it humming 'stranger in your soul' by transatlantic. we both looked at each other and cracked up laughing. i knew it'd get her sooner or later!

Ghandi 2 wrote: most incredibly of all though, there's a desk which has Van Der Graaf Generator written on it. I was stunned when I saw that;

Perhaps someone was cheating on a science exam?

I hate to hear myself say it but, "Back when I was young we'd -------------" (fill in the blanks).  For better or for worse I've become my parents.    Their generation revered Glenn Miller and Frank Sinatra and considered jazz to be the prog music of their day and the British Invasion of the 60s heralded the end of "good" music in their minds.  I find that I feel the same way about Genesis and Yes compared to the crap I hear on the radio now.  Back in the day we'd get an album, go home and listen to it uninterrupted from beginning to end because it was important to us to do just that.  The teens of today have other priorities and I say let it be.  Music will evolve with the society it is part of and I have no interest in finding out what that evolution will lead to in the future.  I have my music and it makes me happy to listen to it.  I, for one, am pleased that we didn't have Ipods in the 60s and 70s.  I'm glad we didn't have MTV, as well.  Let the newer generations find the music that stimulates their mind.  Or not.  If they don't develop and support their own Genesis or Yes in their sphere of awareness then it's their loss.  And a real shame in my book. 

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People who enjoy prog to the extent I do are backed into a corner for life.

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There are worse corners to be backed into.  You could be in a corner with gangsta rappers!

Rising Force wrote: Ghandi 2 wrote: aprusso wrote: The thing is evn worse with classical music, people say they like it (it's bad to say otherwise) but then, how many people actually buy a classical music album, except from the occasional gift or some Beethoven? What's wrong with that? I appreciate Classical, but I'm not going to buy an album anytime soon because: I can listen to Classical 104 (and if you think that the classical station plays the "commercial" classical music than I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective); I can borrow a random classical album for free from my library; lots of people don't buy classical music because there's not a large audience and because of the aforementioned reasons (and they pirate), so classical CDs are expensive. Besides that even though I think Classical is probably the better music, and I do really enjoy listening to it, I don't want to listen to it enough to buy an album. And for me because all classical albums (or at least the classical albums of the great composers who are long dead) are interpretations of what the composers wrote and I don't like that because 1) it feels like a cover album and if I pay for an album I usually expect the original thing 2) I don't know which interpreters are good and things change from interpreter to interpreter. My friends sent me a bunch of stuff by Prokofiev, Holst, Chopin, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, and maybe some other guys, and I can honestly say I do like classical, but I haven't really set off to explore deep into classical... I need to be in the mood to listen to it and there's other kind of music which does me more.

If there's one classical album you should get, get "Glenn Gould Plays Bach" which is ten CD's of Glenn Gould, well, playing Bach.

Most of the classical I hear is what I play myself