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    Posted: July 05 2004 at 10:03

I just discovered a new tool on my PC: how to play music backwards.

So: could you name some pieces of music in which there's a "backwards message" or something like that.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2004 at 10:24

Look what I found: http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm

complete with audio fragments!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2004 at 13:40

Interesting site.  However, they missed the best one.  I believe it is between "Piggies" and "Blackbird" on the White Album.  Here, there is no question that the message was deliberately recorded backwards, because it is complete gibberish when played forwards.  When played forwards, it sounds like John is saying, "mzzmzzmzzm."  When played backwards, the unmistakable line is "Paul is dead, miss him, miss him, miss him."

By the way, regarding many of the ones on the site, it is, of course, entirely possible that some, if not most, of these are complete accidents; i.e., the power of suggestion, mixed with "sound chains."  After all, I seriously doubt that George Harrison sat there before writing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" and said, "Gee, I'd like to have the line 'pass the gun now, it kills the love, the love is cold' come out backwards when I record the song.  What would I have to say to make that happen?  Oh, yes, all I have to do is say, "while my guitar gently weeps."

Please!

Peace.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2004 at 14:26
Yes, many of the examples seemed very farfetched and silly...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2004 at 14:41

I think Pink Floyd has a few of those.  For instance, on Empty Spaces.. the backwards message is ..

"Congratulations, you have found the secret message, send your reply care of Old Pink at the funny farm, Chamflont......Roger, Caroline is on the phone. "

THIS IS ELP
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2004 at 16:53
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

I think Pink Floyd has a few of those.  For instance, on Empty Spaces.. the backwards message is ..

"Congratulations, you have found the secret message, send your reply care of Old Pink at the funny farm, Chamflont......Roger, Caroline is on the phone. "

  

break the circle

reset my head

wake the sleepwalker

and i'll wake the dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2004 at 22:34
It's really really hard to do things that are listenable when played backwards. Anyone else a fan of "Twin Peaks"? That poor little person literally had to learn his lines backwards and forwards!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2004 at 23:39

Many of this examples are speech reversals, as the site explains this cases are natural, there's no intention to do it. One of this cases is the one mentioned about STYX, they were accused for the song Snowblind, when their intention wasn't to hide any message, so they decided to hide a message in the album Kilroy Was Here, specificly at the beggining of the song Heavy Metal Poisoning. A track that precisely makes fun of fanatism against music.

If you listen to the track, you will hear a noice that can't be understood, but if you play it backwards they say "Annuit Coeptis - Novus Ordo Seclorum" , some fundamentalist groups used this back recording to accuse the band again, but they never took the time to check the one dollar bill, this phrase appears surrounding the pyramid in the back:

Something that kids learn at school.

Iván



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2004 at 01:13

When I was at school we had this lecture about reversed words in songs. Somebody played us a tape with lots of examples like Queen's "Another one bites the dust" which sounds like "Start to smoke mariuhana".

I seriously believe some artists experimented with this reverse technique. It was all the rage at some time. But I don't think anyone was influenced by these messages.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 14:54

Quote When I was at school we had this lecture about reversed words in songs. Somebody played us a tape with lots of examples like Queen's "Another one bites the dust" which sounds like "Start to smoke mariuhana".

I seriously believe some artists experimented with this reverse technique. It was all the rage at some time. But I don't think anyone was influenced by these messages.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 15:33

This is also called Backmasking. Here are quite a few to chase down;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward_message

Good luck, let us know what you find out!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 15:34
Originally posted by Gog/Magog Gog/Magog wrote:

Quote When I was at school we had this lecture about reversed words in songs. Somebody played us a tape with lots of examples like Queen's "Another one bites the dust" which sounds like "Start to smoke mariuhana".

I seriously believe some artists experimented with this reverse technique. It was all the rage at some time. But I don't think anyone was influenced by these messages.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 16:15
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

Interesting site.  However, they missed the best one.  I believe it is between "Piggies" and "Blackbird" on the White Album.  Here, there is no question that the message was deliberately recorded backwards, because it is complete gibberish when played forwards.  When played forwards, it sounds like John is saying, "mzzmzzmzzm."  When played backwards, the unmistakable line is "Paul is dead, miss him, miss him, miss him."

By the way, regarding many of the ones on the site, it is, of course, entirely possible that some, if not most, of these are complete accidents; i.e., the power of suggestion, mixed with "sound chains."  After all, I seriously doubt that George Harrison sat there before writing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" and said, "Gee, I'd like to have the line 'pass the gun now, it kills the love, the love is cold' come out backwards when I record the song.  What would I have to say to make that happen?  Oh, yes, all I have to do is say, "while my guitar gently weeps."

Please!

Peace.

Are you referring to the track Revolution 9? I don't think Piggies and Blackbird have backward tracked sections.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 16:26
I think the bit maani is referring to is actually between "I'm so tired" and "Blackbird". I does sound a bit like "miss him, miss him". My feeling is that it's not backwards, it's just John mumbling, but I could be wrong.
Anyway, it became part of the ridiculous (but fascinating) "Paul Is Dead" rumour thing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 16:29
Try "Ya Hozna" from the Frank Zappa album Them Or Us. The entire lyric is backward.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 17:05
For 30 years, I've tried to figure out the final bit of "Time to Kill" off Horslips' brilliant album, The Tain. It sounded obviously Gaelic, but try as I might, I couldn't get the translation (I speak some Scots Gaelic, but Irish is pretty close).

Last year, I visited their mandolin/fiddle virtuoso Charles O'Connor at his shop in Whitby and asked him what it meant. He told me it was simply the lyric recorded backwards.

30 years barking up totally the wrong tree!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 17:10
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

If you listen to the track, you will hear a noice that can't be understood, but if you play it backwards they say "Annuit Coeptis - Novus Ordo Seclorum" , some fundamentalist groups used this back recording to accuse the band again, but they never took the time to check the one dollar bill, this phrase appears surrounding the pyramid in the back:

Something that kids learn at school.

Iván

I never learned about that!

The empty spaces one is hillarious, as is the Britney Spears one.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 17:31

  • Small Furry Animals Gathered Together and Grooving With A Pict
  • Stairway to Heaven (666, and many more....)
  • When Electricity Came to Arkansas
  • May Be A Price To Pay (This One is the Best: Escucha Baby al demonio, es bien facil, Listen baby to the devil is so easy)
  • Fire on High (satan he is god...)
  • Empty Spaces
  • Halleluhwah (?) (some parts are backwards)
  • Revolution no. 9 (turn me on dead man,let me out, let me out!!)

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 18:00
    Try this website:

    Jeff Milner's Backmasking Site

    There is some backward tracking stuff. You can listen to part of a song with the lyrics and then you can listen to reversed track with lyrics you supposed to hear.

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 18:33

    Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

    I think the bit maani is referring to is actually between "I'm so tired" and "Blackbird". I does sound a bit like "miss him, miss him". My feeling is that it's not backwards, it's just John mumbling, but I could be wrong.
    Anyway, it became part of the ridiculous (but fascinating) "Paul Is Dead" rumour thing.

    Oh, right, I know what you're referring to. No I don't think that's backward tracking, that's just John ending his "I'm So Tired" tirade. I would be extremely surprised to find out that that is backward tracked tape.

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