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Poll Question: How do you feel about all the sound effects they use???
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Points: 1455 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2006 at 21:09
i think the "noise" level is fine. it sets the moods of the album very well, and the albums would feel a little shallow without them.
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I would like it if they cut down the noise, but I would like it even more if the lyrics weren't such rubbish and actually made sense. "17 wives in the lake tonight, raw bark in the water of the marble shrine" WTF? I would vastly prefer no lyrics to ones that don't make any sense. Unless it's a Syd Barrett song, then it's ok, because I like his lyrics more, and it's obvious that they aren't supposed to be take seriously. With FTM (and Close to the Edge, but we're not talking about that), it feels like the lyricist is trying to communicate something, but he can't quite do it.

Oh yeah, it would also be great if they didn't repeat so much (see La'Via Via'quez), and had less extended freeform crap (see the end of Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore).
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Points: 10063 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2006 at 23:44

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

"I don't like them"

Exactly...

Scab Dates is my first and last TMV album

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Points: 1485 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2006 at 23:49
Originally posted by Matt Dickens Matt Dickens wrote:

Who cares what we want?


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Points: 1485 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2006 at 23:49
Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

"I don't like them"
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Scab Dates is my first and last TMV album



And a very bad introduction to the band at that.
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Frances had a bit too much noise.
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Are those people who dont like the "noise" sections the same ones who complain about "silent sorrow in empty boats" from Genesis' Lamb or "Ions" or "Intermission" from Tool's Aenima etc.I dont mind these type of filler pieces and they set the mood in FTM.In fact these noise sections work out very well live and allow the band members to extend in a jazz/fusion sort of way.
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Points: 127 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 05:04

No-one complained when Pink Floyd used all those noises on Dark Side of the Moon... (as far as I know)... and there are a noise parts in a lot of songs like:

Rush - 2112 (wind sounds at the beginning)

King Crimson - Exiles (also sort of wind sounds, and also at the beginning)

King Crimson - 21st century schizoid man (at the beginning)

... and of course Yes - Close to the Edge, the bird sounds such.

Just to throw us all for a loop, maybe the Mars Volta should release an album with JUST noise on it.

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Points: 10063 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 06:21
Originally posted by FragileDT FragileDT wrote:

Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

"I don't like them"
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Exactly...


Scab Dates is my first and last TMV album



And a very bad introduction to the band at that.

Thats why.

I nearly fell from my seat when i heard the introduction

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I dont understand all that talking about " Frances the mute is way too noisy " !! I think it's perfect with all it's noise and ambience !! FTM is so much better than De loused, much more complex and more intresting song structures.. also the lyrics really developed !! De loused lyrics were good too but a little bit too Scifi to me.. Anyway Mars Volta is one of my favourite Prog bands nowdays and they deserve the hype !
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Points: 1723 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 14:21

"They should cut down a little bit, just a little bit"

Mainly the ending to The Widow is simply annoying . On the other hand there are also sound effects that I do like  e.g. the ending of #1 on Frances the Mute.
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Points: 108 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 14:27
Originally posted by anael anael wrote:


I'm tired of that

Noise? What Noise?
The Mars Volta don't use noises

This is noise:
http://mp3.alien8recordings.com/MP3/frequency13.mp3

Exactly !! Noise is a whole different genre !! Artist't like Masonna, Merzbow... make NOISE
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Points: 825 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 17:48
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

"17 wives in the lake tonight, raw bark in the water of the marble shrine" WTF? I would vastly prefer no lyrics to ones that don't make any sense.



1) ^^ That's because you DON'T Understand the album
2) Is 25 wives, not 17
3) Ghandi you can register yourself and learn a little more: http://www.thecomatorium.com/ of FTM
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Points: 3083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 20:06
Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by FragileDT FragileDT wrote:

Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

"I don't like them"
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Exactly...


Scab Dates is my first and last TMV album



And a very bad introduction to the band at that.

Thats why.

I nearly fell from my seat when i heard the introduction

Yea, that is  poor introduction to them. I highly recommend you check out a studio album.
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Originally posted by anael anael wrote:

Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

"17 wives in the lake tonight, raw bark in the water of the marble shrine" WTF? I would vastly prefer no lyrics to ones that don't make any sense.



1) ^^ That's because you DON'T Understand the album
2) Is 25 wives, not 17
3) Ghandi you can register yourself and learn a little more: http://www.thecomatorium.com/ of FTM
3) Thanks Yeppp for the support

Eh, I was going on memory, and I listened to FTM about 6 months ago when I borrowed it from the library. In any case, I refuse to believe that it's 25 and not 17 makes any difference whatsoever for the meaning. They were just making stuff up. Unless, of course, they explain it all somewhere, which seems unlike them.

Ok great, you guys made an album about a stranger's journal. But why are you writing lyrics that, don't make sense if we haven't seen the journal! That is, if they even make sense at all. For example, I found this website (it's an archive because the original went down) which trys to explain Kid A's and Amnesiac's crazy lyrics. So it turns out that Kid A is almost ridiculously allusive to books that I've never heard of and are not all that famous, like House of Leaves, or events in their life which I have no reason to know about, like this: http://web.archive.org/web/20040106133324/www.sas.upenn.edu/ ~adrivera/pp67.html

I didn't see anything on that forum that shed any light on FTM; so please tell me, How does that line make any sense whatsoever? Or you can give me a link to masterpage that explains it all if you don't want to type up a long explanation.



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Points: 1864 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2006 at 21:23
Some things don't have to make "sense" in any kind of logical way.

I'm guessing Yes' lyrics bother you for the same reason, then?


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Points: 825 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2006 at 13:28

http://www.thecomatorium.com/board/index.php?showtopic=29657

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Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

Some things don't have to make "sense" in any kind of logical way.

I'm guessing Yes' lyrics bother you for the same reason, then?


I recall some earlier threads where songs on Close to the Edge bothered him for precisely this reason.
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Points: 825 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2006 at 14:05
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:


Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:


Some things don't have to make "sense" in any kind of logical way. I'm guessing Yes' lyrics bother you for the same reason, then?


I recall some earlier threads where songs on Close to the Edge bothered him for precisely this reason.


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Points: 1864 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2006 at 14:14
Originally posted by anael anael wrote:


http://www.thecomatorium.com/board/index.php?showtopic=29657



Hmm... not sure I buy into this. It seems like an awful lot of extrapolation from a limited number of sources, IMO...
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