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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 20:30

Thanks, Tuzvihar...

I generally paste all the stuff and then copy here. Everything comes: the review, the stars and the album image.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 07:33
 
STRIDE Imagine progressive rock album and reviews Progressive Metal
(Studio Album, 2005)
Avg: 4.75/5
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STRIDE "Imagine"
Review (Permanent link) by andy
Posted 5:41:02 AM EST, 3/22/2006

5 stars   Very optimistic atmosphere, great songwriting. US prog at its best and one of the biggest suprise last year. Yes this is the real prog metal, I´m looking forward for the next material from this great band !!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
This very short review doesn't tells enough about the material of the album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 08:36

I'm not saying this review should be deleted, but it's a prime example of people giving 5 star reviews too easily. This album has 4 songs on it, he says one of them is "filler", one "seems forced", one is "just goofy" but has still given the album 5 stars on the basis of giving the 4th song "7 out of 5". Even that one he says "I could have lived without the children's chorus". How can an album be a 5 star one when you don't even like 50% of the tracks on it?

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=72510

 —  I'm just going to come out and say that Duel With the Devil is one of the finest compositions I've ever heard, orchestral, prog or otherwise. It almost carries the album, but Bridge Across Forever strikes me as filler, and Stranger in Your Soul seems forced. However, I have one caveat. I had a problem making friends listen to this album because I found they you just can't appreciate it as well as you should if you haven't heard a lot of prog beforehand. To me, it is the prog equivalent of T.S. Eliot. Something that very few can REALLY appreciate, but everyone can at least enjoy it. I think, personally, that I found the album at exactly the right time in my life, and it (believe it or not) has changed the way I look at and write music. Either way, I think to really appreciate this album, you have to have listened to at least some of the stuff from all of the members' respective bands, and some Genesis, Gentle Giant, ELP, and Yes (I think Yes is trite, but you still should hear some before this album). Because the music references all of it in some way or another. As for a sort of track by track thing, I'd have to say that Duel with the Devil is a friggin' masterpiece, worth listening to a hundred times in a row. That song is just...wow, although I could have lived without the children's chorus. Not that I don't like the compositional aspect so much as I don't like children's chorus. I give it a 7 out of 5, it was that good. Suite Charlotte Pike is just goofy. I thought the lyrics were very fun and the music was quite fresh and original, and I still chuckle every time I hear "In the temple of the gods...we can get it onnnnnn" heh, good stuff. I'd give it a 5/5. Bridge Across Forever was just...stupid filler. I give it a 2/5. Stranger in Your Soul felt like a good idea to me, but it reminded me of my own compositions that I rushed and didn't get meaningful material in; they seem to just be going through the motions in that song, it does nothing for me. I give it a 4/5. So my combined score for this album is (7+5+2+4)/20 or 19/20 Duel with the Devil almost carries it for me, but too bad. It's definitely in my top 5 albums ever, though. I recommend you get this album and make your friends listen to it, although make them listen to other prog first.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 09:55

Chopper

Well, he "adjusted" the score giving 7 out of 5 for his preferred song.

Anyway, if he says the album is in his TOP 5, it would be (for him) a 5*.

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 10:13
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STRIDE Imagine progressive rock album and reviews Progressive Metal
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Avg: 4.75/5
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STRIDE "Imagine"
Review (Permanent link) by andy
Posted 5:41:02 AM EST, 3/22/2006

5 stars   Very optimistic atmosphere, great songwriting. US prog at its best and one of the biggest suprise last year. Yes this is the real prog metal, I´m looking forward for the next material from this great band !!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
This very short review doesn't tells enough about the material of the album.

Dealt with, Andrew... thanks!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 10:52
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Chopper

Well, he "adjusted" the score giving 7 out of 5 for his preferred song.

Anyway, if he says the album is in his TOP 5, it would be (for him) a 5*.

I take your point Atkingani. I still wonder why it's in his Top 5 when he doesn't like half the songs! He can't have heard many albums.

What he's really saying is "Duel with the devil" is in his top 5 songs.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 11:53
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

OK, since Bob and you would not read my reviews, I had to edit it myself

 

Gggggggggrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!.............. Have to do everything around here

In my defence Hugues, I've been away for a few days. I always read your reviews of course!WinkEmbarrassed

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 16:40
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Chopper

Well, he "adjusted" the score giving 7 out of 5 for his preferred song.

Anyway, if he says the album is in his TOP 5, it would be (for him) a 5*.

I take your point Atkingani. I still wonder why it's in his Top 5 when he doesn't like half the songs! He can't have heard many albums.

What he's really saying is "Duel with the devil" is in his top 5 songs.

He is not the first (and probably not the last) to rate highly an album due to a single song.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 14:50

What has specifically changed regarding the reviews? I've noticed that now you have to login in order to review, which is a good idea since most trolls would go away instead of wasting even more of their useless time. I was even joyful for a while, since it gave me a whole menu of reviews and even a profile, but then I realized it's a collaborator only thing. Isn't it?

Anyway, there are more good sides for me.  Now at least I will be sure nobody in my family will rate the same albums I am planning to review. Wait, actually, do you need to register to rate, not review, too?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 17:38
New rules will soon be widespread... in a few days more everyone will be awared about them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 19:02
That's great!

There will be a hell of an increase in forum members, but now you can completely ban someone from posting reviews, that's great!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2006 at 02:36

I don't know, it would still be possible to create a new account from a different PC or something, but I don't think most trolls would go that far. As for the rules, I'll be waiting!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2006 at 05:27

Not an inappropriate review, but I found that dagrush accidentally posted two reviews for Tool's AEnima.

TOOL Ænima
4 stars
by dagrush

This could've been a five star album, but is instead hurt by excessive filler. Still their best, though.

Stinkfist - One of the best singles of the 90's, it's definitely a good one. I wish it was longer, though. 10/10.

Eulogy - Much like the previous song, this should be a 10/10 song. Unlike the previous song, this has two minutes of near filler to kick it off. It's not terrible, but the song would be much better if it wasn't there. 8/10.

H - Much like Stinkfist, a nice rocker. The album's opening trio is a good one. 9/10.

Useful idiot - Like wasting time? This is the track for you. 1/10.

46 and 2 - H's cousin, another nice rocker. Not quite as nice, though. No word on where the prog went, though. 7/10.

Message to Harry Manback - More time to waste? Once again, the track for you. Oh, Tool, I wish you wouldn't hurt your fans so. 1/10.

Hooker with a penis - Most of Tool's lyrics are between bad and terrible. This is one shining exception. Still no word on where the prog went. 8/10.

Intermission - The first short "song" that isn't actually filler. Essentially an intro to Jimmy, this is a nice little track that attempts to keep the mood like in the midst of all these songs about sodomy, L. Ron Hubbard, heroin and selling out. 8/10.

Jimmy - H and 46 and 2's other cousin... and what do you know? Still just straight ahead rock. 7/10.

Die eier von Satan - It's half filler, half rocker, mostly a waste. No point in further analysis, there's plenty of that going on elsewhere. 5/10.

Pu[&*!#] - Ah, there's the prog. The second most progressive song on the album is a very good one. Not the best, but right up there. I prefer the version on Salival, though. 9/10.

Cesaro summability - So we're at four fillers, but only one of them good. Yuck. 1/10.

Ænema - At first, this was my favourite song on the album. Now, I don't feel quite as strongly, but it's still quite good. 8/10.

Ions - And the fifth and final filler. Fifteen songs, five fillers. Boy, these guys know how to put together a cohesive album, don't they? 1/10.

Third eye - Oddly enough, they saved the best for last. I believe this is the best song Tool has ever done and is an easy ace. 10/10.

There are numerous good songs on here. Unfortunately, 1/3 of the album's tracks are fillers. So I can't give it a perfect rating. But it's still an easy four.

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edit - also, I just found this really short one which doesn't really tell anything about the album:

TOOL Lateralus
3 stars
by Man With Hat

I was dissapointed.I expected more out of this album. Dont get me wrong its a decent album but i thought it could be so much better. The best songs are The title track and the last one. Its not the worst album ever. But there are much better out there in trems of prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2006 at 05:45

Please don't report duplicate reviews for the time being. They are probably not duplicates, just a bug in the changes M@X has been making to the site.Wink

Just to clarify too, the rules (i.e. guidelines) are not being changed at this time, just the procedure for posting reviews.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2006 at 06:48
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

OK, since Bob and you would not read my reviews, I had to edit it myself

 

Gggggggggrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!.............. Have to do everything around here

In my defence Hugues, I've been away for a few days. I always read your reviews of course!WinkEmbarrassed

I know you do

Just wanted to see if your pupil did also!

I want my gibberish to be read!!!

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2006 at 08:43
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

OK, since Bob and you would not read my reviews, I had to edit it myself

 

Gggggggggrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!.............. Have to do everything around here

In my defence Hugues, I've been away for a few days. I always read your reviews of course!WinkEmbarrassed

I know you do

Just wanted to see if your pupil did also!

I want my gibberish to be read!!!

I read, Hugues...

Only did not touch it. Maybe you intended to make a broader edition.

Thanks for the "pupil"! Feeling like 18 yo.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2006 at 07:41
YES Close to the Edge progressive rock album and reviews Symphonic Prog
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Avg: 4.52/5
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YES "Close to the Edge"
5 stars by Lody
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Close To The Edge was a very masterpieces by supergroup YES. With its 18-minutes title track, that was awesome! The other side was really great wave too.

CLOSE TO THE EDGE > rate: 5/5 a. The Solid Time Of Change > 5/5 b. Total Mass Retain 5/5 c. I Get Up, I Get Down 4.5/5 d. Seasons of Man 5/5

AND YOU AND I > rate 4.8/5 a. Cord Of Life 4.5/5 b. Eclipse 4/5 c. The Preacher The Teacher 5/5 d. Apocalypse 5/5

SIBERIAN KHATRU > rate: 5/5

Album overall: 10/5 (that was a joke, I mean, this was a very perfect works)

 

 

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS REVIEW???

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2006 at 07:50
STRIDE Imagine progressive rock album and reviews Progressive Metal
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Avg: 4.75/5
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STRIDE "Imagine"
5 stars by progarchiver
Yes this is one of the best prog albums in 2005. Stride is a band with very specific optimistic atmosphere and the excellent songwriting.

When I listen to this album I have a big adrenaline level in very positive way. I think that one of the best elements on the album are the vocal parts which are very persuasive...

Yes I like this band very much and looking forward for the next album, hope will bevery soon plus a bit better production please...

 

 

And this review???

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KING CRIMSon The Power To Believe progressive rock album and reviews Symphonic Prog
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Avg: 4.06/5
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KING CRIMSON "The Power To Believe"
2 stars by MANDRAKEROOT
ELECTRONIC METAL?

How could it be defined this album? It it is an album Prog, Metal or thing? It it is not Metal, but it is not even Prog!

In fact musucally we are to a mix between Electronic, Symphonic and Metal, not easy and immediate. I would dare to say difficult. I listened to this CD at least 20 times and I did not succeed still to understand where begins and where ends. Certainly there are songs like "Eyes Wide Open" that send again also too much to the 70's, but the big problem is that this CD wants to go to write new resonant pages. And I do not know until that I push good.

Erred, because it has been not not even an ugly CD. But it deserved to go out least 30 years does. And if done not love the novelty is better to leave lose it.

For always yours, Mandrakeroot.

 

Do you understand this review???

 

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BEATLES, THE Please Please Me progressive rock album and reviews Proto-Prog
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Avg: 3.00/5
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BEATLES, THE "Please Please Me"
2 stars by M Joel
This album is not progressive in any way. The Beatles only started moving toward that vein of songwriting once "Help" and "Rubber Soul" came out, in my opinion. Before that, they were just typical pop stars. I'm not saying it's a bad album, it's just not progressive, and features pre-drug Beatles that had much more naive views on the world, and wrote love songs out the ass. It's The Beatles first album, that's all. Nothing great about it other than the genious that was always there from the beggining, but did not begin to truly take shape until the drugs were introduced to their lives. That's the honest truth.
 
 


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