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Posted: March 16 2006 at 08:15 |
great new cd ""super coloassil"" title says it all...
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 08:15 |
Certif1ed wrote:
He's jammed with Vai and Malmsteen to name but two... and I believe he taught Malmsteen amongst others. He taught Steve Vai and Kirk Hammett, not Malmsteen.
Vinnie Moore is a kinda 2nd-rate Satriani... come to think of it,
Moore is nowhere near as inventive. Tony McAlpine should appear on any
list of "Gods" in this category, but they all share the same failing,
with the exception of Vai; They can all play mind-scramblingly fast
licks - and tend to, even where fast licks aren't appropriate. They're
virtuosos for the sake of virtuosity, generally - although "Surfing
With the Alien" has some great moments (title track, Satch's Boogie).
In his own right, Satriani is a guitar god. In the context of prog,
he's alright - nothing truly boundary pushing except in
playing technique, but all these guitarists (with the exception of
Vai ) quickly become mind-numbingly boring and cliched, as they over-use the techniques. |
I actually think Stach is the most listenable of all the "guitar
virtuosos", he's certainly less of a show off than Vai, IMO. Plus I
think he's a much better writer of melodies.
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 08:18 |
He makes cool rock grooves! satch is not bad at all!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 08:19 |
yankeerose wrote:
great new cd ""super coloassil"" title says it all... |
I think that he really qualifies for the title "guitar god" ... but while he is a true virtuoso, many of his songs can truly be called "boring". Especially his newest album is not the best introduction.
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el böthy
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 11:37 |
I put alright because I can hear some of his songs...but I get a little bored after a while
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Space Dimentia
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 12:13 |
SATCH IS A GUITAR GOD! He is up their with Vai, Petrucci an Yngwie as possibly the best four guitarists around at the mo. Possibly the best four virtuoso guitarists around at the mo!
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 12:41 |
"f**king Guitar God!"
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Rising Force
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Posted: March 16 2006 at 18:20 |
Satriani is great. I think he's the most listenable of the guitar virtuosos, like Forgotten Son said... Strange Beautiful Music is the first guitar virtuoso album I ever bought, but Surfing with the Alien is the best, at least from what I've heard so far. I agree that he does get boring sometimes, and I prefer Yngwie, MacAlpine, Vai, etc. over him, but he's still cool. I'm hoping to see him live next month, and if I have a good time then maybe I'll pick up his new album...
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 00:27 |
He is worthy of being deemed a "guitar god," sure, but when you get past his ability and past innovation, his songs and albums aren't very consistent, nor are they really musical masterpieces (maybe with a few exceptions). Most of his material is very straightforward, and that gets tiring for me. I'll give him "cool rock grooves."
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 02:05 |
Rising Force wrote:
Satriani is great. I think he's the most listenable of the guitar virtuosos, like Forgotten Son said... Strange Beautiful Music is the first guitar virtuoso album I ever bought, but Surfing with the Alien is the best, at least from what I've heard so far. I agree that he does get boring sometimes, and I prefer Yngwie, MacAlpine, Vai, etc. over him, but he's still cool. I'm hoping to see him live next month, and if I have a good time then maybe I'll pick up his new album... |
That's somewhat confusing - you're saying that he's the most listenable guitar virtuoso, but then you say that you prefer the others over him.
What are your favorite guitar shred albums (top 5)?
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Rising Force
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 03:16 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Rising Force wrote:
Satriani is great. I think he's the most listenable of the guitar virtuosos, like Forgotten Son said... Strange Beautiful Music is the first guitar virtuoso album I ever bought, but Surfing with the Alien is the best, at least from what I've heard so far. I agree that he does get boring sometimes, and I prefer Yngwie, MacAlpine, Vai, etc. over him, but he's still cool. I'm hoping to see him live next month, and if I have a good time then maybe I'll pick up his new album... |
That's somewhat confusing - you're saying that he's the most listenable guitar virtuoso, but then you say that you prefer the others over him.
What are your favorite guitar shred albums (top 5)? |
I meant that out of the guitar virtuosos... more specifically out of hard rock/metal... I think Satriani is the most accessible or beginer friendly for people just getting into that kind of music because his style is not as extreme as guys like Vai and Yngwie but more catchy than guys like MacAlpine (does that make more sense?). 5 Favorite shred albums in terms of shred: Yngwie J. Malmsteen's Rising Force - (self entitled debut) Yngwie J. Malmsteen - Trilogy Tony MacAlpine - Maximum Security Joe Satriani - Surfing with the Alien Cacophony - Speed Metal Symphony
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 03:19 |
Nice list! On my website I used to have "Metal Shred" as a category - I just added "Shred" as a rock category. I will add a page which lists albums from those two genres ... So we can determine the best shred album.
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Rising Force
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 03:22 |
Alright, I'll register.
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 03:49 |
Boring...
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Ars longa , vita brevis
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 05:41 |
Well, that's interesting... I am just listening "Extremist" and I think he's very good... Maybe not a god but still very good
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 06:20 |
Pablo_P wrote:
Well, that's interesting... I am just listening "Extremist" and I think he's very good... Maybe not a god but still very good
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I like The Extremist ... not his best, but very good. I just prefer his more experimental albums (although they're still much less experimental than most Vai albums).
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 06:24 |
I hate the "experimental" albums...it sounds like techno
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 06:32 |
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
I hate the "experimental" albums...it sounds like techno |
You mean Engines of Creation?
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 06:40 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
I hate the "experimental" albums...it sounds like techno |
You mean Engines of Creation?
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