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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2006 at 08:07

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

"To protect oneself from the painful experience of being wrong, the human brain tries to maintain the illusion of an audible difference. It's the same with politics, religion, astrology and any other aspect of our daily lifes."

It also aplies to your theories, like the one saying that tube amp are less good than solid tate cause they have more distorsion.
But we have already discussed it.

Yes, we did discuss it - No, I didn't say that. You can object to what I'm saying, but please don't go around and tell that I said something which I clearly did not. It only shows that you don't really pay attention to what I'm saying.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 03:51

I have seen some test of cables using spectrum analysis to see if the signal was different with expensive cables and with cheap cables and there actually was a difference

Besides electrical devices can pollute the power net severly, i know i had some troubles getting a device that communicated through the power net to function properly because of all the pollution.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 04:09
That's obvious.

But this guy prefers to negate such elementary things.
Anyway, he relies on theory, i rely on practice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 04:17

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

That's obvious.

But this guy prefers to negate such elementary things.
Anyway, he relies on theory, i rely on practice.

Indeed but proper analysis of the signals shows that there ARE differences, its not something you just imagine

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 04:52
Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

I have seen some test of cables using spectrum analysis to see if the signal was different with expensive cables and with cheap cables and there actually was a difference

Sure, nobody denies that there is a difference that shows in a spectrum analysis. The question is: Can you actually hear the difference ... the only way to find out is to conduct listening tests. And these usually show that most people simply believe to hear an improvement of sound when they listen to a sample and have been told that the $1000 cable is used - even when the cable hasn't been changed at all. That's what I meant above ... a placebo effect, wishful thinking.

Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

Besides electrical devices can pollute the power net severly, i know i had some troubles getting a device that communicated through the power net to function properly because of all the pollution.

Also no denying here. But again: I'm sure than in most houses (at least in industrialized areas) the power lines are not causing any audible noises or pollution. Computer networking via power lines operates at much higher frequencies than audio (like 1,000,000 times higher).



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 04:54

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

That's obvious.

But this guy prefers to negate such elementary things.

Please stop the lying and maniupulating.

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:


Anyway, he relies on theory, i rely on practice.

Rather: I rely on science, skepticism and verificable facts, oliver relies on unprovable (and undenyable) beliefs.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 05:03

I use an AIWA hi-fi system, it a 2 speaker system!!!

However also I use a AMSTRAD micro hi-fi which is suprisingly good too!!

CYMRU AM BYTH
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 05:03
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

 

Besides electrical devices can pollute the power net severly, i know i had some troubles getting a device that communicated through the power net to function properly because of all the pollution.

 

Also no denying here. But again: I'm sure than in most houses (at least in industrialized areas) the power lines are not causing any audible noises or pollution. Computer networking via power lines operates at much higher frequencies than audio (like 1,000,000 times higher).

I did infact talk about analog communication with sounds between two boxes that is meant to exchange information on how some electrical equipment is used (DVD players,TV's and stuff like that).  I had to use filters because the TV and PC was making to much noice on the NET.

But many enthusiaists like to have a own electrical course for their HI-FI equipment to ensure no interference by other electrical appliances. And i belivie that this is certainly the best idea



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 05:09

And my personal recommendation!

DALI 2002LE!

B&W ASW300 subwoofer

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 05:13

A bit more pricey:

B&W705

REL strata 5!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 05:44
Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

But many enthusiaists like to have a own electrical course for their HI-FI equipment to ensure no interference by other electrical appliances. And i belivie that this is certainly the best idea

I don't know ... is it really a good idea to spend thousands of dollars on a magical device that might improve your sound in case of interference which you couldn't even hear in the first place?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 06:02

Certainly on my pc speakers if you turn the volume up to say 60% you can already hear alot of noise (Even some noise from the PC itself.)

So certainly filters of some kind would help!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 06:57
Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

Certainly on my pc speakers if you turn the volume up to say 60% you can already hear alot of noise (Even some noise from the PC itself.)

So certainly filters of some kind would help!

My PC is connected to my Harman-Kardon amp & Elac speakers (I know oliver - the system sucks). I can turn the volume WAY up and don't hear any noise.

What soundcard are you using? Independently of that you should check your inputs ... make sure that mic in and line in are disabled.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:11

I use a old and cheap Creative 5.1 ( i never bothered in fancy pc sound at all)

I always picked up noise from the CD-rom, power supply and HDD  of the pc and i have tried everything! But i never found a efficent way of cancelling it

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:23
Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

I use a old and cheap Creative 5.1 ( i never bothered in fancy pc sound at all)

I always picked up noise from the CD-rom, power supply and HDD  of the pc and i have tried everything! But i never found a efficent way of cancelling it

I can only say that I had that problem both with the soundblaster live and on my two notebooks - but not with the Audigy 2 ZS, and not with the X-Fi. With these cards I don't hear the slightest noise even with the volume turned up 75%.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 15:13
Hi All

Manyu thanks for your posts. I finally went for a B&W combination of CM1 with a ASW675 subwoofer. An excellent combination for my lounge. I home tested a few other combos but this set up gave me good all round sound.

So its B&W before 9.00 pm and Sennheiser HD600 after

Mind you the old walls began to vibrate playing Threshold - Wounded Land. I enjoyed it though
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2006 at 16:09
^ Consign to Oblivion should be a good test drive for your speakers ... excellent production!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2006 at 07:04
Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

Hi AllManyu thanks for your posts. I finally went for a B&W combination of CM1 with a ASW675 subwoofer. An excellent combination for my lounge. I home tested a few other combos but this set up gave me good all round sound.So its B&W before 9.00 pm and Sennheiser HD600 afterMind you the old walls began to vibrate playing Threshold - Wounded Land. I enjoyed it though<!--
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You probably have to set down the cut freq and the volume.
The low must be tensed and not exagerated!

When the setting is well, you must not hear the sub's precense.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2006 at 19:15
Sorry to put it bluntly, but it would appear that oliverstoned has fallen
aprey to the marketing (Lies.) spread by companies and perpetuated by
the audiophile.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2006 at 19:59
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