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Dick Heath
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Jazz-Rock Specialist
Joined: April 19 2004
Location: England
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Points: 12812
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 12:35 |
meurglysIII wrote:
Besides American Jazz-Fusion acts, I'd have to say that my favorite U.S. Prog album from the 70s is Journey's debut, really excellent.
By the way, Steely Dan aren't Prog, although they are quite good.
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Interesting the Kerrang Encyclopaedia of Heavy Rock calls the first few Journey albums jazz rock' including my favourite Back Into The Future - which sound to me to be straightahead rock. And I think I'm right in saying Brit, Ainsley Dunbar played drums (hot from the Mothers) originally in the band before jazz drummer Steve Smith came along.
I have real problems with Steeley Dan being dismissed as not being prog, simply because they consistently mixed rock and jazz in their music, ergo a jazz rock band, i.e. fit into the jazz rock fusion sub-section of prog rock. Is this doubt because their songs have lyrics......?
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gabbel ratchett
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 20 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 206
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 13:13 |
In no particular order:
Shadowfax - Watercourse Way Easily as good as anything that HTM put out.
Atlantis Philharmonic - S/T not really great, put pretty damn good. And the two of them did all their stuff live, quite a feat!
Osamu Kitajima - his '70's releases are awesome. Expatriot Japanese guy, moved to LA in the mid '70's. If you liked Jade Warrior in the Island label period you'll love this stuff.
St. Elmo's Fire - Splitting Ions In The Ether - OK, this came out in '80, but the band started in the late '70's. Probably the best truly heavy US prog band. Right up there with the '73 - '74 King Crimson line-up. Like King Crimson's RED album? Check this out.
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dead things don't talk too well, they've got a shaky sense of diction.
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philhepple
Forum Groupie
Joined: January 31 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 49
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 13:14 |
jcleary wrote:
I was at a friends house last year and
he put on "Drink Of Water" by
Ambrosia without telling me who it was and GUNNED the
volume. I was
blown away. I couldn't believe how good the whole album
sounded.
Before that I had only heard the pop ballads and hadn't
given Ambrosia
the time of day. I've also heard the second album is
good. I'll have to get
it. |
Yeah I don't care for any of Ambrosia's pop songs either.
Wow "Drink Of Water" at high volume for your first
experience off the first album. Great! I think you will
like Ambrosia's second CD "Somewhere I've Never
Travelled" The best Prog songs are "The Brunt" and "Danse
With Me George". I don't care for the third and fourth
CDs, but the last studio one "Road Island" has a Prog
Rock Gem on it called "Ice Age". Definitely worth
checking out. Good Song.
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ANDREW
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 21 2005
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Points: 3064
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 13:51 |
- PAVLOV'S DOG
- STARCASTLE
- BABYLON
- CATHEDRAL
- FIREBALLET
- LIFT
- MIRTHRANDIR
- PENTWATER
- RETURN TO FOREVER
- WEATHER REPORT
- SYNERGY
- FRANK ZAPPA
- KANSAS
- STYX
- TEMPEST
- UTOPIA
- YEZDA URFA
- AXCRAFT
- AURORA
- CAPTAIN BEYOND
Top 5:
- PAVLOV'S DOG
- RETURN TO FOREVER
- WEATHER REPORT
- STARCASTLE
- KANSAS
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Greg W
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 24 2004
Location: Chicago
Status: Offline
Points: 3904
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 14:33 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Kansas
Happy the Man
Yezda Urfa
Cathedral
Arabesque
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Talking about obscure. I thought for sure i was the only one aware of these guys.
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memowakeman
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: May 19 2005
Location: Mexico City
Status: Offline
Points: 13032
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 14:34 |
hey from Andrew´s lis t my top 5 are
- Return To Forever
- Styx
- Kansas
- Zappa
- Weather Report
i was thinking in Mahavishnu Orchestra, but i think it is a multi national band, beautiful!!
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ANDREW
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 21 2005
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Points: 3064
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 14:45 |
memowakeman wrote:
hey from Andrew´s lis t my top 5 are
- Return To Forever
- Styx
- Kansas
- Zappa
- Weather Report
i was thinking in Mahavishnu Orchestra, but i think it is a multi national band, beautiful!!
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Mellovision
Forum Newbie
Joined: February 05 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 2
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 19:29 |
Hello group!
Scanning my collection I came up with the following. No favorite 5 here, just lot’s of great music
Other than the biggies from the 70’s (Zappa, Kansas,..etc)
Most of these have already been mentioned. But all are great bands from the US during that decade and worth checking out (IMO of course);
Arabesque
Babylon
Captain Beyond
Cathedral
Easter Island
Ethos
Fireballet
Flying Island
Fred
Glass
Guns and Butter
Hands
Happy the Man
Lift
Maelstrom
Mirthrandir
The Muffins
Pavlov’s Dog
Pentwater
Victor Peraino's Kingdom Come
Polyphony
Pre
Ram
St. Elmo’s Fire
Shadowfax
Starcastle
Surprise
Thunderpussy
Utopia
Viola Crayola
Wizards From Kansas
Yezda Urfa
Also, a few great pop/prog bands;
Ambrosia
Aviary
Crack The Sky
If you like the early Journey / Santana sound, I’d also recommend;
Azteca
Caldera
Chango
Malo
Mandrill
Plus tons of great Jazz / Fusion / Funk which I figure you not looking into (according to your post). Not to mention many hard rock bands that had progressive moments.
Happy Hunting!
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Rick
Edited by Mellovision
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Garion81
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: May 22 2004
Location: So Cal, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 4338
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 19:34 |
Greg W wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Kansas
Happy the Man
Yezda Urfa
Cathedral
Arabesque
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Talking about obscure. I thought for sure i was the only one aware of these guys.
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So big deal you got all the way through "A".
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?"
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Zac M
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: July 03 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 3577
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 19:40 |
Dick Heath wrote:
meurglysIII wrote:
Besides American Jazz-Fusion
acts, I'd have to say that my favorite U.S. Prog album from the 70s is
Journey's debut, really excellent.
By the way, Steely Dan aren't Prog, although they are quite good.
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Interesting the Kerrang Encyclopaedia of Heavy Rock calls the first few Journey albums jazz rock' including my favourite Back Into The Future - which sound to me to be straightahead rock. And I think I'm right in saying Brit, Ainsley Dunbar played drums (hot from the Mothers) originally in the band before jazz drummer Steve Smith came along.
I have real problems with Steeley Dan being
dismissed as not being prog, simply because they
consistently mixed rock and jazz in their music, ergo a jazz rock
band, i.e. fit into the jazz rock fusion sub-section of prog rock. Is
this doubt because their songs have lyrics......? |
The first Journey album is sort of jazzy at times, but not jazz-rock to
me. I haven't heard "Back into the Future" yet, but plan on it. By the
way, Dunbar is an incredibly underrated drummer. Check him out on
"Freedom at Point Zero" by Jefferson Starship, not Prog I know.....
I think Steely Dan are good classic rock, and although they mixed jazz,
rock and pop, I still don't consider them Prog. They definitely had a
unique sound though. They may be more Prog than some other listed
bands IMO, but I personally don't think they belong here, and
it's not just the lyrics or vocals, for me at least.
The possibility of their inclusion has been brought up a few
times at least, and it seems that it's the general consensus among
Collaborators that they shouldn't be included, and as I already stated,
I agree....
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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timothy leary
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 29 2005
Location: Lilliwaup, Wa.
Status: Offline
Points: 5319
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:10 |
Where`s the flock What the flock? does it get any better than Jerry Goodman on violin?
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Zac M
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: July 03 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 3577
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:13 |
Chicago's first four albums + 7 are also of interest in U.S. Prog.
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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Cygnus X-2
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: December 24 2004
Location: Bucketheadland
Status: Offline
Points: 21342
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:17 |
- Frank Zappa
- Utopia
- Happy the Man
- Dixie Dregs
- Kansas
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Zac M
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: July 03 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 3577
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:21 |
How could I forget the Residents????..one of my favorite bands!
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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Progfans
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 05 2005
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 214
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:47 |
just a precision, saga come from canada and not usa
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La cuisine c,est comme l,amour, il faut y croire pour que ca marche
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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator
Prog Folk Researcher
Joined: August 17 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4659
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 21:05 |
Kansas, of course.
Also HP Lovecraft (if you consider them prog), Vanilla Fudge, Captain Beefheart, and It's a Beautiful Day.
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
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Guests
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 22:22 |
Kansas ***** Americas premier progressive rock band (please write more revirews !!!)
then (no order) ...
Pavlovs Dog **** (get use to David Surkamps voice and you have a great prog band here)
Happy The Man *** 1/2 ( I like their first CD)
Proto Kaw ***** (this band are on a winning streak)
Starcastle *** (first two albums are great the rest are not so good)
Rating system .... * = 1/5 .... ***** = 5/5
Edited by s1ipp3ry
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FragileDT
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: June 20 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1485
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 22:57 |
Kansas
Zappa
Weather Report
Happy the Man
I'm glad Weather Report was finally mentioned (as long as were considering
fusion.)
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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SirPsycho388
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 09 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 697
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 23:17 |
Kansas
Return To Forever
Starcastle
Frank Zappa
Weather Report
*Special Mention to Mahavishnu Orchestra, though they are Multi-National
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Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can
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arnold stirrup
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 28 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 188
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 23:28 |
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
Miles Davis, 1969-1975. (from In A Silent Way to Agharta and everything in between).
Edited by arnold stirrup
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So much music. So little time.
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