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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 12:35

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Besides American Jazz-Fusion acts, I'd have to say that my favorite U.S. Prog album from the 70s is Journey's debut, really excellent.

By the way, Steely Dan aren't Prog, although they are quite good.

 

Interesting the Kerrang Encyclopaedia of Heavy Rock calls the first few Journey albums jazz rock' including my favourite Back Into The Future - which sound to me to be straightahead rock. And I think I'm right in saying Brit, Ainsley Dunbar played drums (hot from the Mothers) originally in the band before jazz drummer Steve Smith came along.

I have real problems with Steeley Dan being dismissed as not being prog, simply because they consistently mixed rock and jazz in their music, ergo a jazz rock band, i.e. fit into the jazz rock fusion sub-section of prog rock. Is this doubt because their songs have lyrics......?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 13:13

In no particular order:

Shadowfax - Watercourse Way   Easily as good as anything that HTM put out.

Atlantis Philharmonic - S/T   not really great, put pretty damn good. And the two of them did all their stuff live, quite a feat!

Osamu Kitajima - his '70's releases are awesome. Expatriot Japanese guy, moved to LA in the mid '70's. If you liked Jade Warrior in the Island label period you'll love this stuff.

St. Elmo's Fire - Splitting Ions In The Ether - OK, this came out in '80, but the band started in the late '70's. Probably the best truly heavy US prog band. Right up there with the '73 - '74 King Crimson line-up. Like King Crimson's RED album? Check this out.

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 13:14
Originally posted by jcleary jcleary wrote:

I was at a friends house last year and
he put on "Drink Of Water" by
Ambrosia without telling me who it was and GUNNED the
volume. I was
blown away. I couldn't believe how good the whole album
sounded.
Before that I had only heard the pop ballads and hadn't
given Ambrosia
the time of day. I've also heard the second album is
good. I'll have to get
it.


Yeah I don't care for any of Ambrosia's pop songs either.
Wow "Drink Of Water" at high volume for your first
experience off the first album. Great! I think you will
like Ambrosia's second CD "Somewhere I've Never
Travelled" The best Prog songs are "The Brunt" and "Danse
With Me George". I don't care for the third and fourth
CDs, but the last studio one "Road Island" has a Prog
Rock Gem on it called "Ice Age". Definitely worth
checking out. Good Song.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 13:51
  1. PAVLOV'S DOG
  2. STARCASTLE
  3. BABYLON
  4. CATHEDRAL
  5. FIREBALLET
  6. LIFT
  7. MIRTHRANDIR
  8. PENTWATER
  9. RETURN TO FOREVER
  10. WEATHER REPORT
  11. SYNERGY
  12. FRANK ZAPPA
  13. KANSAS
  14. STYX
  15. TEMPEST
  16. UTOPIA
  17. YEZDA URFA
  18. AXCRAFT
  19. AURORA
  20. CAPTAIN BEYOND

Top 5:

  1. PAVLOV'S DOG
  2. RETURN TO FOREVER
  3. WEATHER REPORT
  4. STARCASTLE
  5. KANSAS

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 14:33
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Kansas

Happy the Man

Yezda Urfa

Cathedral

Arabesque

 

Talking about obscure. I thought for sure i was the only one aware of these guys.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 14:34

hey from Andrew´s lis t my top 5 are

  1. Return To Forever
  2. Styx
  3. Kansas
  4. Zappa
  5. Weather Report

i was thinking in Mahavishnu Orchestra, but i think it is a multi national band, beautiful!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 14:45
Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

hey from Andrew´s lis t my top 5 are

  1. Return To Forever
  2. Styx
  3. Kansas
  4. Zappa
  5. Weather Report

i was thinking in Mahavishnu Orchestra, but i think it is a multi national band, beautiful!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 19:29

Hello group!

 

Scanning my collection I came up with the following. No favorite 5 here, just lot’s of great music

 

Other than the biggies from the 70’s (Zappa, Kansas,..etc)

 

Most of these have already been mentioned. But all are great bands from the US during that decade and worth checking out (IMO of course);

 

Arabesque

Babylon

Captain Beyond

Cathedral

Easter Island

Ethos

Fireballet

Flying Island

Fred

Glass

Guns and Butter

Hands

Happy the Man

Lift

Maelstrom

Mirthrandir

The Muffins

Pavlov’s Dog

Pentwater

Victor Peraino's Kingdom Come

Polyphony

Pre

Ram

St. Elmo’s Fire

Shadowfax

Starcastle

Surprise

Thunderpussy

Utopia

Viola Crayola

Wizards From Kansas

Yezda Urfa

 

Also, a few great pop/prog bands;

 

Ambrosia

Aviary

Crack The Sky

 

If you like the early Journey / Santana sound, I’d also recommend;

 

Azteca

Caldera

Chango

Malo

Mandrill

 

Plus tons of great Jazz / Fusion / Funk which I figure you not looking into (according to your post). Not to mention many hard rock bands that had progressive moments.

Happy Hunting!

 

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Rick



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 19:34
Originally posted by Greg W Greg W wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Kansas

Happy the Man

Yezda Urfa

Cathedral

Arabesque

 

Talking about obscure. I thought for sure i was the only one aware of these guys.

 

So big deal you got all the way through "A". 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 19:40
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Besides American Jazz-Fusion acts, I'd have to say that my favorite U.S. Prog album from the 70s is Journey's debut, really excellent.

By the way, Steely Dan aren't Prog, although they are quite good.

 

Interesting the Kerrang Encyclopaedia of Heavy Rock calls the first few Journey albums jazz rock' including my favourite Back Into The Future - which sound to me to be straightahead rock. And I think I'm right in saying Brit, Ainsley Dunbar played drums (hot from the Mothers) originally in the band before jazz drummer Steve Smith came along.

I have real problems with Steeley Dan being dismissed as not being prog, simply because they consistently mixed rock and jazz in their music, ergo a jazz rock band, i.e. fit into the jazz rock fusion sub-section of prog rock. Is this doubt because their songs have lyrics......?



The first Journey album is sort of jazzy at times, but not jazz-rock to me. I haven't heard "Back into the Future" yet, but plan on it. By the way, Dunbar is an incredibly underrated drummer. Check him out on "Freedom at Point Zero" by Jefferson Starship, not Prog I know.....

I think Steely Dan are good classic rock, and although they mixed jazz, rock and pop, I still don't consider them Prog. They definitely had a unique sound though. They may be more Prog than some other listed bands  IMO, but I personally don't think they belong here, and it's not just the lyrics or vocals, for me at least.

The possibility of their  inclusion has been brought up a few times at least, and it seems that it's the general consensus among Collaborators that they shouldn't be included, and as I already stated, I agree....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:10
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:13
Chicago's first four albums + 7 are also of interest in U.S. Prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:17
  1. Frank Zappa
  2. Utopia
  3. Happy the Man
  4. Dixie Dregs
  5. Kansas
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:21
How could I forget the Residents????..one of my favorite bands!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:47
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 21:05

Kansas, of course. 

Also HP Lovecraft (if you consider them prog), Vanilla Fudge, Captain Beefheart, and It's a Beautiful Day.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 22:22

  Kansas  *****  Americas premier progressive rock band  (please write more revirews !!!)  

then (no order) ...

Pavlovs Dog  **** (get use to David Surkamps voice and you have a great prog band here)

Happy The Man *** 1/2  ( I like their first CD)

Proto Kaw *****   (this band are on a winning streak)

Starcastle *** (first two albums are great the rest are not so good)

Rating system ....  * = 1/5    ....  ***** =  5/5    



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 22:57
Kansas
Zappa
Weather Report
Happy the Man

I'm glad Weather Report was finally mentioned (as long as were considering
fusion.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 23:17

Kansas

Return To Forever

Starcastle

Frank Zappa

Weather Report

*Special Mention to Mahavishnu Orchestra, though they are Multi-National

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 23:28
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

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