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yeppp
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 22 2006 Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: March 07 2006 at 13:54 |
Minamo ( almost totally improvised " ambient " or avant
garde music. They use guitars and Computers and create very intresting
music
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Bastille Dude
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 30 2005 Status: Offline Points: 906 |
Posted: March 07 2006 at 15:14 |
Many thanks to erik for starting this thread Just a few short days ago I was going to ask everyone here on PA for recommendations for some Japanese Prog. This information has been a very big help to me, I can't wait to track these titles down. |
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Syzygy
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Posted: March 07 2006 at 15:38 |
It's pretty much the same for me, plus I like some of the Acid Mothers Temple incarnations and offshoots. Acid Mothers Temple SWR is the psychedelic power trio against which all others must be judged, Zoffy are a great laugh and Kawabato Makoto's solo albums are well worth checking out. |
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: March 07 2006 at 15:38 |
What a day, Bastille Dude!
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: March 07 2006 at 16:55 |
Hello fellow progheads, here is some additional infomation, it is based upon an article I wrote for a Dutch progrock magazine.
ARS NOVA-THE BOOK OF THE DEAD On this CD Ars Nova had chosen for a concept CD about the Egyptian history. Keyboard player Keiko Kumagai is very omnipresent, she delivers a wonderful and varied sound out of her digital equipment featuring flute, fagot, violins, flageolets and snare instruments like the Japanese koto. But in general Ars Nova their sound keep strong echoes from ELP, UK and Trace: many bombastic organ waves and sensational synthesizer runs on “Ankh” and “The judgement of Osiris” and beautiful, very sparkling piano work on “Field of Irau” (one of the highlights on this CD). A strong and pleasant keyboard driven progrock cd! ARS NOVA - Biogenesis Project Ars Nova delivers a SF concept: it’s 2301 and the earth is overcrowded, without nature, the ozone-layer has disappeared and an artificial sun is shining, a kind of Greenpeace doom-scenario! The story is written by Numero Ueno, the #1 Japanese proghead and deals about a fanatical nature organisation, space ships, robots, several ideologies and the deep-rooted evil in mankind. On this CD Ars Nova is supported by an impressive range of progrock artists: members from PFM, Goblin and Il Balletto Di Bronzo, the rhytm-section from Gerard and, I proudly presents, the Dutch genius Arjen Lucassen (the brainchild behind Ayreon). The music is in the tradition of the Japanese bombastic keyboard approach: dazzling synthesizer flights, virtuosic keyboard (inter)play and heavy floods of Mellotron and Hammond organ. In between there’s frequently Arjen’s fiery, very distinctive guitarsound. A strong contribution is from violin player Lucio Fabbri (PFM), he sounds like Jean-Luc Ponty at his best but the vocals are also OK featuring female singer Mika and ex-Leviathan vocalist Alex Brunori. At some moments the vocals sound a bit too theatrical and the compositions a bit fragmentic, in my opinion this CD would have gained at least one more star if Arjen Lucassen would have lived in Japan because of his compositional and producing skills. BI KYO RAN - Parallax The King Crimson-invasion must have snatched the bodies from Bi Kyo Ran, especially guitarist Kunio Suma seemed to have had alien-commands only to play like Robert Fripp! The album "Parallax" is the most original and varied one, loaded with ominous climates. The line-up features the # 1 Japanese keyboard virtuoso Mr. Toshio Egawa (Novela, Gerard, Scheherazade), he contributes with some beautiful Mellotron playing. The focus is on the blistering guitarwork but you can also hear instruments like the cello, violin and trumpet. Despite the obvious echoes from King Crimson, this CD has some very captivating moments. CINEMA - Into the State of Flux Cinema is founded on the ashes of Fromage, a fine Japanese progrock band that acted in the shadow of Outer Limits, Gerard and Ars Nova. This album has strong classical overtones featuring beautiful violinplay, sparkling piano, orchestral keyboards and opera- like vocals. The music evokes Pageant (lush symphonic atmosphere and sensitive electric guitar) and Outer Limits (classical instruments). The main part of this album contains the long track "Color of soul" (almost 20 minutes) featuring all the above mentioned elements and a wonderful Japanese undertone with a koto-like sound. If you like classical music and symphonic rock this is one to discover! DEJA-VU-Baroque in the Future The Japanese keyboardplayer Motoi Sakuraba sounds like the Japanese twin-brother of Eddie Jobson but I also trace elements from the style of Rick Wakeman and Keith Emerson. On this album you hear instrumental keyboard-oriented symphonic rock with a tight rhythm- section and nice and alternating compositions. The vocals sound a bit powerless but this may not stop the 'vintage-keyboard-aficionados' from checking out this CD. In my opinion "Baroque in the future" is not a classic but it contains wonderful keyboardplay. FAR EAST FAMILY BAND This is a legendary Japanese band, the first line-up included the known synthesizer player KITARO. The first album “The cave down to earth” from ’75 is mostly recommended, it has a spacey and slight psychdelic sound (like early PINK FLOYD) and contains ethnic elements which gives the music an original twist. Another fine album is “Nipponjin (’75) with a keyboard version of Far Out’s “Nihonjin” (Far Out was the precursor of FEFB). It’s in the vein of the debut-album, the climates ranges from bombastic to more mellow.. MAHOUJIN - Babylonia Suite This is one of the lesser known Japanese progrock bands. The instrumental keyboard- oriented progrock (synthesizers, piano, organ and delicate Mellotron flights) is a bit similar to bands like Triumvirat (Germany) and Northstar (USA): the sound is tasteful and features not much solowork but remarkable is the very dynamic rhythm-section, especially the bassplayer blew me away. MARGE LITCH-FANTASIEN I needed a few session to get into Marge Litch their very varied progrock: classical and symphonic rock (orchestral keyboards), hardrock (heavy guitar riffs) and even opera (the vocals). This unique sound is delivered by good musicians, even the female vocalist (usually Japanese singers do have a bit squeeky voice!) and the compositions (most between 7 and 12 minutes) contains many surprising ideas and a clear sound. The keyboardplay is excellent, in the vein of Toshio Egawa (Novela, Gerard, Scheherazade). The guitarplayer showcases hit talents on the acoustic guitar in “Desire for wealth” (with echoes from John McLaughlin) and on the electric guitar in the captivating track “The sacred war” (a very moving solo). The highlight on this CD is the complex composition “Cruel alternative” featuring splendid keyboards (from majestic Mellotron to sparkling piano) and some great breaks. To be discovered! MUGEN This Japanese progrock band was founded in ’78 by Katsuhiko Hayashi (keyboards) and Takashi Nakamura (vocals and keyboards). Not until ’84 Mugen released their first album “Sinfonia della luna”, a very mellow CD with classical guitar, beautiful waves of Mellotron and sensitive electric guitar solos. A few accellarations and bombastic movements keep a certain tension in the music. The keyboardplay is very TONY BANKS inspired. The second album “Leda et la cygne” (’86) sound most alternating but the third “The princess of kingdome gone” (’88) is a bit disappointing, it lacks any tension. Obviously the band ran out of ideas and soon Mugen disbanded. On all albums the high-pitched vocals are remarkable, a kind of classical trained JON ANDERSON. The second album is considered as their best, thanks to contributions by Takashi Kawaguchi on violin (from OUTER LIMITS), Kazuhiro Miyatake on flute and Ikkou Nakujima on acoustic guitar (both from PAGEANT). The album has very strong classical overtones but showcases more explosive moments, due to the contribution of Takashi Kawaguchi (Outer Limits) on violin, Kazuhiro Miyatake on flute and acoustic guitar and Ikkou Nakujima (both from Pageant) on guitar). They lift this CD to a very pleasant level: elaborate compositions featuring classical guitar/violin, flute/Mellotron, electric guitar/church organ and classical orchestrations liek The Enid. The highlight on this CD is the long track "Edmond's Old Mirror" delivering bombastic keyboards in a dramatic atmosphere like Le Orme's finale on "Fellona E Sorona": awesome Mellotron flights, moving violin and some distorted electric guitar. The up-tempo song "Carmilla" (with synthesizer-runs like Rick Wakeman) shows the variety of this band. PALE ACUTE MOON - Newtopia — The only album Pale Acute Moon ever released contains tasteful arrangements but the influences from the British symphonic rock dinosaurs like Genesis, King Crimson, Yes and Pink Floyd are a bit too obvious! Some great keyboard soli on this CD are directly derived from several Rick Wakeman and Keith Emerson runs. This may be a challenge for progheads to do a game who can recognize the original work! I always wonder: is this blind worship or creative poverty? SOCIAL TENSION - It Reminds Me OF MacBethia “Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends, ladies and gentlemen, .. Social Tension!”. Altough SOCIAL TENSION sounds like an ‘ELP fan’s wet dream’, they do not deserve to be described as just an ELP clone. Keyboard player Nobuo ‘Kodomo’ Endoh is a virtuosic but he has a more varied an refined sound than Keith EMERSON, using synthesizers, organ, piano, harpsichord, strings, classical orchestrations and ... Mellotron (Keith EMERSON refuses to play this instrument, it would cause unemployment for classical musicians he used to say). This CD is a compilation from the two albums “MacBethia” and “It reminds Me Of Those Days”, fortunately the record company has deleted the lacklustre tracks from the second CD for this compilation. The result is a very impressive tribute to the wonderful “Pictures../Trilogy” years: seven spectacular and dynamic keyboard-driven symphonic rock compositions with bombastic keyboard play and a powerful, very propulsive rhythm-section. Highlights are the two ‘epic’ title tracks with lots of breaks, changing of atmospheres and amazing keyboards solos. Breathtaking! VIENNA - Progress - Last Live When Yukihiro Fujimura left Gerard, he founded his own band and named it Vienna. After two studio-album Vienna released this live-album. The music features strong and fiery guitarplay (a lot of blistering soli), dazzling keyboards and many spectacular breaks. The band even plays a classical piece ("The planets" from Holst) but in general Vienna makes harder-edged progrock that lacks emotion and originality in the compositions altough the technical level is high. I prefer Gerard but if you like progrock with exciting heavy metal guitar, Vienna could be worth listening. |
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micky
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Posted: March 07 2006 at 17:12 |
another big hit Erik...you're the man
I may have missed any that were mentioned (so many mentioned
hahahah) but what about Japanese 'folk-prog'...anything that reflects
any 'native' music of Japan or the far east? Obviously it appears
ELP were a huge influence... what else influenced the prog scene there?
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: March 07 2006 at 17:34 |
I don't know any folk-prog (koto, flutes) Micky so recommendations are welcome! It's remarkable how pivotal UK (Mark II) was in Japan along ELP and King Crimson but also Dutch band Trace was very appreciated, Japanese progheads love bombastic keyboard driven prog ! |
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anael
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Posted: March 07 2006 at 17:50 |
I know just a few. Here´s more bands. Tsurubami. Gekkyukekkaichi Zoffy. Les Rallizes Denudes. Taj Mahal Travellers. Ghost. Tune In, Turn On, Free Tibet! Boredoms. Vision Creation Newsun Acid Mothers Temple. Kawabata Makoto. Father Moo. Phew. (she recorded an album with Can's members Holger Czukay) |
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honganji
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 21 2005 Status: Offline Points: 571 |
Posted: March 07 2006 at 18:22 |
English song albums
etc, etc Usually Japanese don't sing in English. If I use words in my song, I must use Japanese. Coined words
Yoshida Tatsuya usually sings in his word. He doesn't think Japanese fits to his music. Katra Turana's lyrics are coined by Hiroike Atsushi. Why many Japanese bands use other languages on their name ? Is it strange ? There are many cases outside of Japan. Though they don't come from English countries, many bands use English name on them. Same pattern. |
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chamberry
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Posted: March 07 2006 at 20:06 |
Don't forget to listen to Mono . A very good post-rock band from Japan too.
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zarg2112
Forum Newbie Joined: March 08 2006 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 26 |
Posted: March 08 2006 at 10:34 |
Anyone knows the 28 minutes epic of X Japan "Art of life" , is a heavy metal song but is a master piece. Edited by zarg2112 |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 12:17 |
I feel de ja vu here. But for (repeated) completeness, would add: Foodbrain: early 70's psychedelic jazzrock Kennedy: late 80's heavy rock/jazz rock band - their live album Kennedy! includes an extended cover fo Mahavishu's Birds Of Fire Casiopea: jazz rock group who started in the late 70's and seems to be still going! http://www.answers.com/topic/casiopea And probably the best Japanese jazz rock guitarist, with a very distinctive sound: Kazumi Watanabe - check out his work with Bill Bruford and Jeff Berlin as his rhythm section, i.e. the two Spice Of Life albums, also Mobo albums. Agree up to a point wrt cost of Japanese albums. However, the French prog specialist Musea Records, has reissued a number of Japanese recordings, e.g. Bi Kyo Ran, Kennedy, at reasonable prices. And I was shocked how many and how cheap Kazumi Watanabe albums were in Singapore's main branch of HMV. The US label (amongst several) Gramavision have issued ~6 Kazumi Watanabe albums (including the one's named above). I see Spice Of Life Too is listed at 75 dollars US in Amazon.US at the moment, perhaps because the label do seem to delete their albums from the catalogue very quickly. However, Amazon UK list it at under 18 quid............
Shop around! Edited by Dick Heath |
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Moogtron III
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
Posted: March 08 2006 at 13:11 |
My favourite Japanese prog albums:
Three great albums, and I have the idea that I will like Mugen's Sinfonia Della Luna as well. I tried Gerard and although I like their virtuosity, I don't really like their compositions . It bothers me a bit, because Gerard should have been everything I like, very keyboard driven and ELP / UK - like. But for some reason, I don't like their music very much. I really think it's the compositions. That's always my main reason for liking or disliking a band. But there are certainly some Japanese cd's I would like to check out! Starting with Mugen. |
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: March 08 2006 at 14:39 |
Great to notice that so many experts and 'Nippon progheads' has joined this thread, thanks! Today I found a French progrock magazine (from 1987) in my collection featuring a Japanese progrock special, I will do my best to translate this into decent English. It contains a brief history, recommendations and an interview with the owner of Japanese progrock magazine Marquee, perhaps the most beautiful one in the world! |
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fuxi
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 08 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2459 |
Posted: March 08 2006 at 15:19 |
Hello Erik & Co!
I don't think I'm as much of a prog fanatic as some of you seem to be, but I have been a dedicated fan of Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Caravan, National Health, King Crimson, Bruford and other prog bands since the 1970s. All this is just to say that the Japanese band Kenso has impressed me deeply. I would definitely include their album FABULIS MIRABILIBUS DE BOMBYCOSI SCRIPTIS in my all-time prog Top Twenty. (And YUME NO OKA isn't bad either.) Like Honganji (Nishi or Higashi?) I also admire the virtuoso fusion guitarist Kazumi Watanabe, especially his albums SPICE OF LIFE II (co-starring Bill Bruford and Jeff Berlin) and KILOWATT (with Patrick Moraz and Wayne Shorter, among others.) I bought KILOWATT through Amazon.co.uk a few years ago and it was not particularly expensive. Definitely a must for BRAND X or BRUFORD freaks! |
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Bj-1
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 15:42 |
Only familiar with Ain Soph. Gotta' check out their debut soon!!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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DarioIndjic
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Universe Status: Offline Points: 600 |
Posted: March 08 2006 at 16:38 |
Japan has one of the best prog scene of the world,Japanese Prog i own:
Gerard (which is one of my favorite bands),their first album is one of my top 10 of all time. Teru'Symphonia Outer Limits Shingetsu(one of the Japanese best) Far East Family Band(excellent psychedelic prog!) Ars Nova Keyboard Trio(which is a compilation ) Mugen
I love keyboard work in Japanese prog bands ,i think they keyboard players are one of the best, even equaling those from Italian scene. Thanks to Eric Neuteboom to opening this thread! |
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Ars longa , vita brevis
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: March 11 2006 at 05:26 |
A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE JAPANESE PROGRESSIVE ROCK (based upon an article in the French progrock magazine Harmonie from 1987) The history of the Japanese progressive rock be divided into four parts. Part I: The roots are in in the late Sixties and early Seventies, between 1969 and 1971. It was a very experimental era, influenced by the German cosmic rock (like TANGERINE DREAM and ASHRA TEMPLE) and the Anglo-Saxon progressive rock like PINK FLOYD. Soon many bands emerged in Japan like N. Morichita, April Foot, Hiro Yanagida (a legend in Japan, the album “Milk Time” is excellent), Too Much, Tatuo Inada, Stroberry Pass, Speedgrov & Shinki, Food Brain, Love Live Life, Far Out and J.A. Seezar. In those days the Japanese public was not very interested in their own music and more and more musicians started to play on rock instruments like guitar, bass and drums and even typical progressive rock instruments like the Mellotron. Part II: This era spans the time between 1972 and 1977. Slowly we can witness the birth of the Japanese progressive rock, influenced by the UK symphonic rock dinosaurs Yes, King Crimson, Genesis and Pink Floyd. The first results are albums like “An Old Castle In Transylvania” by Cosmos Factory and “Golden Picnics” by Yonin Bayashi. Some bands even got attention from the European public like Far East Family Band, Chronicle, Kitaro, Osamu Kitajima and of course Stomu Yamashta. Despite the European recognition, most bands remain loyal in keeping traditional Japanese elements into their progrock. Part III: In this period (between 1978 and 1984) the Japanese progheads really started to appreciate their own progrock scene that blossomed in those years. One of the oldest and most legendary is Novela featuring keyboard wizard Toshio Egawa (who later went to splendid Gerard) and Terutsugo Hirayama. Other great bands were Gerard, Bi Kyo Ran, Shingetsu, Mandrake, Ain-Soph, Dada and Kenso. Part IV: This is an era (between 1985 and 1987) of maturity, influenced by the UK and Italian progrock: a rich sonority, elaborate compositions, melodic refinement and an omnipresence by vintage keyboards, especially the ubiquitous Mellotron. It delivers many outstanding and exciting bands like Outer Limits, Pageant, Mugen, Negapshere, Pale Acute Moon, Bellaphon, Mr. Sirius, Black Page, Fromage, Ataraxia, Magdalena, Kennedy and Vermillion Sands. Although it is a very prolific period, there is an almost cruel concurrence and many bands don’t survive. It seems that the abundancy, like in nature, created natural selection in the Japanese progressive rock scene too. But those that managed to survive are very interesting like Outer Limits, Gerard and Mugen. |
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rushaholic
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 05:37 |
I was just about to mention Mono - they are a great band (sound a lot like Explosions in the Sky). Edited by rushaholic |
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Pafnutij
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 06:04 |
I've heard good stuff about Tipographica. Gonna have to check them out.
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