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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2006 at 23:57

Originally posted by gentletull gentletull wrote:

When did I say anything about deflowering? I think u have the wrong person lol

No proves, but evident, hope you aren't.

If you are not I apologize in advance.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 00:02
yeah but for people who haven't got any box sets, i recommend the remasters. You are not just getting improved sounding albums, but you are getting an extra 90 bonus tracks. I listen to Aqualung and think the first 6 songs are classic tull, but the last 5 songs are kind of weaker and more repetitive. I rate songs like Wondering again, Up the pool, lick your fingers clean, life is a long song(remix), dr bogenbroom, for later, wind up(quad) all better than side 2 of aqualung ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 14:30
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Originally posted by gentletull gentletull wrote:

When did I say anything about deflowering? I think u have the wrong person lol

No proves, but evident, hope you aren't.

If you are not I apologize in advance.

Iván.

 

There is someone using the name gent1etull doing bad things in your 'pseudonym.'

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 14:51
Originally posted by Sunken Skies Sunken Skies wrote:

hmm... Don't you know that they wouldn't have been able to fit all those song on an album anyway. 

I don't care much for the word rejects they were just songs that were simply left off becuase there was not enough space on the record or they sounded too diffrent or too much alike.  Has Ian simply put it he thought "Wind up" was a great way to end the album so he left off lick you fingers clean.  Anyway logic should tell you that it would be imppossible to fit all those songs on a record and they already did release a box set and have most of those songs on the remasters - you should check them out  

Most people know Jethro Tull from Aqualung but their later work is just as great if not better, they even won a grammy in 1987 "Songs from the Woods" or "Heavy Horses" is a must for any Tull fan plus Roots to branches and Dot Com are some damn good albums

Ian did not want to out Teacher on the Benefit lp. He thought it was a bad song. There is always the story about the b side that was turned over and became a hit, as was Righteous Brothers Unchained Melody.

We live in a different world now with CDs, which require a min 50 minutes of music as opposed to the 35-40 of lps.  Artists would scrape way for many of those songs that are now bonus tracks but  alot of times it is just a reason for them to get their fans to repurhcase the album.  On Minstel in the Gallery live versions of Minstrel and Valhalla are promised but only a snipet of the live version are part of the package. On Thick as a Brick you do get a Madison Square Garden version of the Thick as a Brick Suite.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 17:33
Teacher and Witches promise were classic Tull singles, that's why Ian left them off the album so people didn't have to pay for those songs again when they bought the album. But those songs would have made the album a much stronger listen. An album with more good songs will get more attention and will get more spins. So each song will get more listens if there are some great songs holding the album together. I must admit I don't like Inside and With you there to help me too much. With you there to help me has a very ordinary sounding chorus 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 23:14

As far as I've read, "Teacher" was a b side to the British 45 and only became popular after it was re-recorded for a single in the States .  If you have the remaster, it has the original Brit mix on it, which from my understanding did not have the flute. Is this the case?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 23:45
My Benefit remaster has Teacher with flute lol. I don't think teacher was ever done without flute
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2006 at 23:52
Originally posted by ken4musiq ken4musiq wrote:

As far as I've read, "Teacher" was a b side to the British 45 and only became popular after it was re-recorded for a single in the States .  If you have the remaster, it has the original Brit mix on it, which from my understanding did not have the flute. Is this the case?

I'm not sure either, I have the Jethro Tull 25 years anniversary VHS (I have to clean it because it has fungus) and I believe I remember seing that song played without flute, I remember it clearly because there was a very beautiful girl in whom the cameras focussed all night long.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2006 at 02:18

Originally posted by gentletull gentletull wrote:

My Benefit remaster has Teacher with flute lol. I don't think teacher was ever done without flute

A review on Amazon says that the remaster is a misprint and the "Teacher" version is the American release version. The song only appeared on the American release lp, which I think tells us a lot about how Ian saw the album and the song "not" fitting into it. (Now I feel guilty for always fast forwarding to get to it.) In the remaster, the song is not in the original sequence but tacked on so to speak.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2006 at 03:07
I think the other version of Teacher is the one on the 20th ann box set. It's actually a live recording in a small tv performance. But it almost sounds like it's in the studio. It's also on the 20th ann video. Cool clip where Ian is annoying Martin by hitting him with the belt of his dr who style dressing gown, while Martin is trying to play the guitar lol. Ian doesn't play the flute on that but he pretends to play the soprano or clarinet during the song ;)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2006 at 14:52

Originally posted by gentletull gentletull wrote:

I think the other version of Teacher is the one on the 20th ann box set. It's actually a live recording in a small tv performance. But it almost sounds like it's in the studio. It's also on the 20th ann video. Cool clip where Ian is annoying Martin by hitting him with the belt of his dr who style dressing gown, while Martin is trying to play the guitar lol. Ian doesn't play the flute on that but he pretends to play the soprano or clarinet during the song ;)

 

Teacher is an important song because it comes to identify how American audiences identify Tull.  It would probably be more at home on Aqualung becuase of its up tempo rock style. From what I understand Teacher was never a big hit in Europe.

Benefit starts with With You There to Help Me, which is a typical late 1960s Brit folk-blues style; it could have been off of Traffic's John Barleycorn.  It's a beautiful tune with its chant like modalism and sets the stage for Aqualung, especially with the guitar solo, though the latter becomes much more mainstreamed. From what I understand, some fans left the band after Aqualing stating the they had sold out and place the earlier folk-blues albums in the best of JT.

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