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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 05:13 |
P.S. I didn't mind this thread would have re-lived so passionately!!!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 05:47 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
P.S. I didn't mind this thread would have re-lived so passionately!!!![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif) |
Andrea
Actually I would consider Stormwatch a bit like I do Strawbs's Bursting At The Seam: the end of an era when most members leave (or get kicked out, whatever) and it is the last album of a classic line-up. Remember that thread ???
A is like Hero & Heroine album the first of a new era with an almost completely new group except for the leader (Anderson and Cousins) and their faire-valoir (Barre and Lambert).![](smileys/smiley18.gif)
In both cases, I like the previous line-up rather than the new: in both Tull and Strawbs this change of line-up was a clear loss of identity![](smileys/smiley19.gif)
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 05:57 |
The original stormwatch is better than Minstrel, Too old, Warchild, APP, Stand, Benefit and This was. Stormwatch is cool and the 4 strong bonus tracks make it a top remaster.' A' is a very good album, Fylingdale flyer, Uniform, And further on, Pine martens jig, Protect and survive are very good songs and all are prog rock. It's a better album than Larks, red and Starless. The songs are clever, they are catchy and they have staying power. How can you call it bland? lol. This isn't a true prog club. Most of the people in here think Tool and Porcupine tree are great lol. Wake up people ;)
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 05:59 |
Listen to Mark Craneys drumming on A and the live A tour. Pegg is a top bass player, Jobson is very good. Get over the fact that Barlow, Palmer and Evan left the band. The only reason they left is because ian wanted to make a solo album and he hired other musicians. When the word was falsely spread that Tull were recording a new album with new members, those 3 guys wanted out. This is a talented outfit with Ian and Martin in charge. Just like previous Tull. 1977-1982 is just as great as 1970-1974 for Tull. Minstrel and Too old is the weakest moment of the 70s. I'm wondering if I'm at a prog rock or a hard rock site lol
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Sean Trane
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 09:04 |
gentletull wrote:
Listen to Mark Craneys drumming on A and the live A tour. Pegg is a top bass player, Jobson is very good. Get over the fact that Barlow, Palmer and Evan left the band. The only reason they left is because ian wanted to make a solo album and he hired other musicians. When the word was falsely spread that Tull were recording a new album with new members, those 3 guys wanted out. This is a talented outfit with Ian and Martin in charge. Just like previous Tull. 1979-1982 is just as great as 1970-1974 for Tull. <<< I just finished telling you that an era ended with Stromwatch and you include SongsFTW, HH and Bursting out with a line-up that has nothing to do with the future albums of the 80's.
Are you sure you are a Tull fan![](smileys/smiley5.gif) ?? I mean what I say is fairly straightforward and with a minimum Tull knowledge, this should come across fairly easy!!!![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
Minstrel?????? and Too old is the weakest??? moment of the 70s.
I'm wondering if I'm at a prog rock or a hard rock site lol
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I am wondering what you are doing here saying such non-sense.![](smileys/smiley22.gif)
Still peace!![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 18:42 |
Minstrel drags on lol. Valhalla sound like a broken record, Baker st drags on with the acoustic strumming, ians voice sounds like he has helium in title track. Requeim is a bit slow, One white duck should have been half as long. The album lacks grunt and excitement. The vocals are too thin, the drums and bass aren't heavy. The album is only decent and thankfully the best song Summerday sands was added to the remaster. I'll take stormwatch and A anyday over Minstrel and I think the Stormwatch remaster blows Minstrel away :D. The too old remaster is just as good as Minstrel
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 18:48 |
gentletull wrote:
Minstrel drags on lol. Valhalla sound like a broken
record, Baker st drags on with the acoustic strumming, ians voice
sounds like he has helium in title track. Requeim is a bit slow, One
white duck should have been half as long. The album lacks grunt and
excitement. The vocals are too thin, the drums and bass aren't heavy.
The album is only decent and thankfully the best song Summerday sands
was added to the remaster.
I'll take stormwatch and A anyday over Minstrel and I think the
Stormwatch remaster blows Minstrel away :D. The too old remaster is
just as good as Minstrel |
Well, to each their own...but I would have a thought a hardcore Tull fan would like Minstrel over many of their albums...I havent't heard Too Old remastered, but I'm sure my opinion wouldn't change...2 stars at most!!!
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 18:53 |
minstrel shows a lack of ideas, lack of great writing, lack of cleverness. The remaster rates about 7.5/10 because it has summerday sands to boost it
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 18:55 |
gentletull wrote:
minstrel shows a lack of ideas, lack of great
writing, lack of cleverness. The remaster rates about 7.5/10 because it
has summerday sands to boost it |
I don't have the remaser of it, but I still like it. To be honest,
sometimes I just want to hear the original albums with all the original
songs the way it was suppossed to be. I think the 25 years of box set
is good because it puts all those tracks in one collection without
having people have to rebuy copies of albums that they already have.
Now, the Deram Caravan remasters are another story ![](smileys/smiley2.gif) .
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 19:10 |
whats wrong with the caravan remasters? ;)
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 19:12 |
gentletull wrote:
whats wrong with the caravan remasters? ;) |
Nothing, I was saying they were great!!!
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 19:22 |
As for In the land of the grey and pink, I'd add I don't know it's name to that album. It should have been on the original ;)
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 21:10 |
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I think gentletull needs to get a life , Tull were nothing after thick as a brick |
What the f**k![](smileys/smiley5.gif)
My friend you are missing out on "Songs from the Woods" "Heavy Horses" "Stormwacth" "Minstral in the Gallery" "Warchild" "A Passion Play" "Living in the Past" "Too old to whatever it was" "A" Creast of the knave" Catfish Rising" Roots to Branches" "Dot Com"
Thick as a Brick![](smileys/smiley6.gif)
My friend how old are you - you must be older then my grandma![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
You need to get an update on Jethro Tull![](smileys/smiley17.gif)
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Posted: March 04 2006 at 01:04 |
tulls super periods were as follows, no band has this many strong sessions and eras. Keep in mind my album comments in brackets, because I don't rate many of the original albums highly
1970-1974
benefit(only a half decent album) + 4 excellent outtakes=very good year
aqualung(cool album) + 9 mainly excellent outtakes=excellent year
Thick as a brick(excellent album)=excellent year
A passion play(cool album)=very good year
Warchild(only a half decent album) + 9 mainly excellent outtakes=very good year
1977-1982
Songs from the wood(cool album)=very good year
Heavy horses(very good album) + 5 mainly excellent outtakes=excellent year
Stormwatch(cool album) + 3 excellent outtakes=very good year
A(cool album)=very good year
Broadsword(only a half decent album) + 16 mainly very good outtakes=very good year
1991-1999
Catfish rising(only half decent album) + 7 mainly very good outtakes=very good year
Roots to branches(cool album)=very good year
Dotcom(very good album) + 1 very good outtake=excellent year
Not even cool sessions such as Stand up, Crest and Minstrel are good enough to match the above sessions
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