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sleeper
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 11:58 |
ulfskjol wrote:
I've lost what little respect I had left for this band if this is true.
If the only purpose of writing music is getting a number one hit and make money you should stop writing and get a business career instead! I thought music was about creating because YOU loved it and needed to express yourself musically, not money first and then music.
How very "progressive" of them!
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A band has got to make a living, and I believe the way that they are doing it is releasing a single that they know there fans will go for. If this gets them to No 1 (not totally impossible qith the current lack of strength in single sales) then it could open the band up to new fans, and no band in the world would say no to that.
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greenback
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 13:13 |
unlike genesis, marillion has now a marginal sound, pretty depressing.
in order to get a true international pop recognition, marillion will have to produce happy songs like i can't dance, hold on my heart or invisible touch; this will only be possible if they change their singer.
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sleeper
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 13:53 |
greenback wrote:
unlike genesis, marillion has now a marginal sound, pretty depressing.
in order to get a true international pop recognition, marillion will have to produce happy songs like i can't dance, hold on my heart or invisible touch; this will only be possible if they change their singer.
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I dont see that happening any time soon.
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rupert
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Posted: March 06 2006 at 09:55 |
It's simply not true that marillion should change their singer in order to get popular recognition, if you need evidence look at the success of "You're gone" in UK and NL. They need media-attention, that's all, for there have always been good single-tunes to play on the radio on their latest albums: Deserve, Rich, Between you and me, Map of the World...
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Jools
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 08:58 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I stopped buying Marillion albums after Fish left and I find they became a different band and acquired a different audience although there were the die hards who held out just because of the name. |
How the hell can you tell me why I still like Marillion? I was very tempted not to even bother with the Hogarth lineup back in 88 but why should I write something off I've never heard. When I heard it, yes it was different but I liked it and still like most of what they do and not because I've "held out just because of the name". There is still a signature feel, anyone who can't hear this don't really "get" Marillion, they just want to hear an analogue keyboard solo played at lightening speed and all the songs to be approaching 10 minutes.
Remember Marillion still remain four fifths of the lineup that recorded Fugazi in 1984.
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 09:46 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
I say, go for it, if they can successfully get a
number one, then good for them. And as Cert said, I very much doubt
that the new album will be revert back to the Holidays in Eden
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Am I the only one who actually prefers Holidays In Eden to Brave. HiE
still retained the sound from the previous 3 albums (particularly
Rothery's guitar solos). I actually see Brave, although very good, as
being the start of Marillion's dicline in the mid to late 90s as the
instrmuentation had changed wildly from that of Misplaced Childhood,
Clutching at Straws and Season's End. Sure Holidays has a few mediocre
tracks on it but then so does it's predecessor (Hooks in You ).
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rupert
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 14:33 |
Oh... Holidays in Eden isn't really as great as it COULD have been when you listen to the demos... "Brave" is far more the band the way they are whithout any commercial pressure for producing a "Hit single"... and Dave Meegan is a great producer for Marillion... Chris Neill worked better for ike and the Mechanics ( Beggar on a beach of gold, in particular )...
I became a real fan of this band because of the h-aera-stuff... before, I just thought "good stuff...
but it was too close to ol' Genesis, see, when I want ol' Genesis I'm putting on the original rather"...
I like it far better now because of what came after, really !
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