Two languages reviews.

memowakeman wrote: avestin wrote: Mharo wrote: [QUOTE=R_DeNIRO]Supongo que estaría bueno, no conozco mucho Prog en español, apenas La Máquina, Crucis y Los Jaivas (los tres me encantan). Then you should really look in the thread by Erik called Spanish Prog in which you'll find an abundance of Prog-Andaluz recommendations. I would also suggest PM Erik Neuteboom for recomm's since he is an expert on the subject. Yes... and Erik is a spanish prog rock specialist !

I apologize there are several other Spanish prog experts but I forgot their nick names . But in this thread you'll see who they are:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17840& amp;KW=spanish+prog

and also see these others threads I found in a search:

Your search for 'spanish prog' has found 9 results

Topics Topic Starter Replies Views Last Post spanish progrock band Zaguan erik neuteboom 2 45 February 21 2006 at 22:31 By erik neuteboom Poll: spanish prog! 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ... 8 9 erik neuteboom 168 2136 February 19 2006 at 19:53 By erik neuteboom spanish prog own category? 1 2 erik neuteboom 24 177 February 11 2006 at 07:13 By Yanns New spanish prog erik neuteboom 5 37 January 06 2006 at 00:15 By erik neuteboom spanish prog silvertree 8 117 November 03 2005 at 22:53 By silvertree spanish prog Xanadu 9 169 October 30 2005 at 21:42 By Progbear Poll: Best spanish prog flying teapot 12 212 October 19 2005 at 20:22 By nimrodel Best spanish progressive band ever!! Andy Latimer 8 201 July 18 2005 at 18:47 By Dan Yaron 70’s spanish prog 1 2 DallasBryan 25 333 May 24 2005 at 05:15 By strawberry

Como hispano hablante, sería mucho mas fácil hacer reseñas en mi idioma natal, pero Prog Archives tiene miembros y lectores de todas las nacionalidades y lenguajes, si comenzamos con el español, seguiremos con el portugués (Ya he leido algunas reseñas en ese idioma) o francés (También he visto algunas). Donde terminaría esto?

Pronto tendríamos reseñas en idioma y con alfabeto Thai o Japoneses y esto sería caótico Existen otros foros en Español donde podemos hablar en nuestro idioma, mantengamos el orden.

Hago la traducción para que aquellos que no entienden  nuestro idioma no piensen que estamos tratando de ignorarlos o confundirlos.

As Spanish speaker, would be much easier to make reviews in my native language, but Prog Archives has members and visitors from all nationalities and languages, if we start with Spanish, we would follow with Portuguese (Already read some reviews in this language) or in French (Also saw some of those). Where would this end.

Soon we would have reviews in Thai or Japanese language and alphabet and this would be chaotic. There are other forums in Spanish where we can speak in our language, lets keep the order.

I translate this post so those who don't understand our language don't believe we're trying to ignore or confuse them.

Iván

Question 1: How could non-Spanish readers be sure that the section in English is equal to the section in Spanish?

Question 2: (as Iván pointed) Why shouldn't speakers of other languages have the same right?

Question 3: PA rules ask for the use of English in the forums and reviews. To use a dual-language system I think that the rules should be changed first. Don't you agree with me?

Listen, friends, I'm Brazilian, my native language is Portuguese and I can easily read Spanish. I probably write and speak Spanish better than English, but I think that this idea isn't factible (at least, by now). Así, dejemos como está.

However, the use of certain internationally known  expressions (in Latin, Greek, French, Spanish, etc) in order to give emphasis to some point in a review can be justified IMO.

  

I don't know Spanish, but I do have an English-Spanish dictionary, and there are online dictionaries, so the idea is not a problem for me. I may not understand the nuances of a language I'm not familiar with, but at the very least, I will spend the time to get the meaning of the review if it appears to be important to me. I've done this for Italian and German reviews I've seen on other sites. I am open to reviews written in all languages and I support this idea.

I think one problem is, are there enough review moderators that can understand all the possible languages that could be used to review titles on this site? What if someone writes an abusive review in a language that none of the moderators knows? In a way, I can see this opening up a can of worms which could create potentially more work for a group of people that are volunteering to maintain this site.

Another issue could be that some people don't have the proper language supports installed on their machine to read non-Roman alphabets. In which case, Cyrillic, Greek, Arabic, Hebrew, Chinese, Japanese and a host of other alphabets would look like gibberish.

If these problems can be addressed, then I don't see a problem with reviews written in multiple languages.

I kind of look at it as, if English speakers don't bother looking at or complain about non-English reviews, then it's their loss, because spending a little time figuring out how to translate another language is not only interesting, but it's a wonderful educational experience. It's also a way of bringing people from different cultures together.

Well, this can work if exist some program that can translate the wole forum, but thats very dificult to exist, the only choise is the english.