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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 01:30
I once put on Gate of Delurium for my class whist we were cleaning the set. 

It was just general confusion and 'wtf' all around.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 02:07
I had bunch of friends at my place last weekend and one of them told me:  "the only thing which sucks in spending the evening here is that we have to listen to your music".


What really bugs me, is that most people almost like the music until a certain part of a song starts which they do not like immediately and then tell me that the band is crap


Once I decided to build a playlist of songs from most of the bands I have in my IPod, some which I knew my friends liked. It was something like 60 songs and contained bands from sixties to modern, from really mellow to the heviest (Death, Meshuggah, Strapping Young Lad) and from most styles of "prog".... Later in the evening my friends (almost collectively) started complaining that I should change the music and stop playing the same sounding crap . From that point onwards I stopped ignoring their comments about music in general


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 02:14
I tried exposing my punk, rock and 80s music-loving friend (who's now in an EMO band) to prog but maybe I went harsh on him at first by cutting straight to the chase with some Gentle Giant.  He said he liked Dream Theater's Metropolis Part II. (but I think the reason was because he "studied" it to get new drumming ideas from Portnoy)  When I decided that the time was right, I played him some Gentle Giant and he simply said that he "respected" the band for its musicianship, meaning he thought the music was crap.  When i repeatedly asked him whether he liked it he merely said the same thing that they are great musicians ....and then silence.  Now whenever I'm at his house and tell him to download an album that I think he might be interested in, he doesn't trust me and simply ignores me!  Well... at least he was courteous about it.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 11:58
Friend of mine who's a drummer:

Yes's Close To The Edge Organ Solo:"Wtf is this??"

The drums right after the organ part: "Why is he drumming so fast, he could use 8's instead of 16's"

Friend of mine who doesn't listen to music anyway:

Focus' Hocus Pocus: "Wtf is he yodeling?"

To anything that has a man with a high voice: "Is he gay or something?"

Usually I just get "this sucks" or "it's repietitve"


A lot of my "friends" say they dislike commercial music. They listen to, amongst others:
Greenday, HIM and Blink 182.

My father dislikes King Crimson, he thinks the music's too "nervous".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 12:11
Comments from my wife range usually include "pretentious" and "over the top"; in particular she finds some of the groups who employ a lot of time changes to be obnoxious.  But among her favorite things to listen to are Broadway musicals!    Talk about pretentious and over the top!  She even admits it, but claims they are her kind of "over the top".   Another complaint is the length of the songs, that's probably a popular complaint of "non-proggers".

Basically she recognizes the talent of the musicians of the various things I listen to, but just can't get into the music.  A lot of my prog metal is also just too heavy for her - totally understandable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 12:18
Often when I put on a CD, peole read the song list and they say someting like :
Hey I don't know any of these songs. Why did you say it was good?

That's frustrating! They don't even give the music a chance.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 16:13

My brothers a speed garage/hip hop fan and absolutely hates my music. As for my freinds I have only had one or two bad coments like "have you got anything good like 2pac"  and "WTF is this" (listening to Easter, Marillion)

Most symphonic prog goes down well with my flat mates here (If I get to the kitchen first I will put on a CD and so far Genesis, Floyd, Spocks Beard, Transatlantic, Dream Theater, The Flower Kings and IQ have gone down well).

Most of my friends back home like Modern Symphonic/prog metal at least a bit too (one of them got me ino prog).

 

Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 18:22
my brother always says "you cannot play something like real music?"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 18:30
during the wind screaming part in echoes my mom said

"geez this song was actually good but now it just sounds like bad halloween music" 
true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 18:46

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

A very intelligent (no irony intended) friend of mine about any kind of more avant-garde music (a lot of prog included) and art in general - "I call stuff like this sh*t sculptures".

She likes some prog, though, and she isn't the only of one my friends who do - and those who don't like prog in general are still quite respectful towards it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 19:14
I hate letting my friends listen to my prog, because of the comments.

I usually got like,
"ABITW Pt2 is there only good song." - Pink Floyd This has got to be my most hated comment ever! But the only bad thing is I.. used to think it to until I really listened to Floyd.
"When are they going to start the song?" - Echoes

And my dad, he likes Pink Floyd, but he doesnt listen to any other prog because, "they all sound the same."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 19:17
Two of my best friends had very similar tastes to me in regular rock (Led Zeppelin, Queen, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Metallica).
I decided to push them a little further, and started talking about Gentle Giant and how they squeezed a xylophone solo in Knots. After making them listen to it (twice!) I got (aprox. translation):

"Seriously, you've gone mad."
"I'm pretty sure this is the worst song I've heard in all my life. I don't know how they had the nerve to release it"

I realised then my proggin' would be more lonely than I hoped.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 19:18
This geezer I worked with said "Toccata" sounded like a video game...AND TURNED THE CD OFF!! Rude.
"That's not your face...it's mine! IT'S MINE!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 19:21
"do i have to be patient to like this?"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 20:17

When listening to Focus - "Hocus Pocus":

"Where are the lyrics?"

Originally posted by Chris_Kemp Chris_Kemp wrote:

This geezer I worked with said "Toccata" sounded like a video game...AND TURNED THE CD OFF!! Rude.

Very, very rude. What's the problem if it sounds like a videogame?

I don't understand people who thinks videogame music is not real music...

Videogame music can be very complex...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 20:24
"It's so depressing and it all sounds the same"
"It's nothing but noise!"
"It's nothing but sound effects!"
"Why can't they keep it under three minutes?"
"If they can't do it in three minutes, then it's not worth listening to."
"It sounds like druggie music."
"That's weird!"
"I'm not sure where you're going with this."
"Makes me want to jump off a bridge."

Of course, watching people with their mouthes wide open unable to make a comment is amusing to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 20:29

I've had alot of "WTF?"s and weird looking faces after THEY asked to hear what I was listening to.

But its all good, most of my friends also like prog rock, along with my dad, and also stepdad.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 20:36

Ugh...

My one friend only listens to music that "rocks" which means (for him) Korn, System of a Down, Linkin Park and other terrible new bands that can only play semi-heavy crappy halfway metal rap.  He asked me one time if I ever wanted to kill myself because the music I listened to was so bad. 

Another time he said some RHCP song was good.  I said it probably wasn't as good as A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, which I heard for the first time the day before.  He said that if it was by one of my "60 minute song bands" it probably sucked.

He also says that the only good bands are the ones on the radio, because they are the only ones that people like, therefore they are the only good ones.  WRONG.

Let's see.

Another friend of mine claims to like prog, but he only listens to Pink Floyd and even then its only Dark Side, WYWH and the Wall, which are their most commercial releases.

He also said that Peter Gabriel sounds exactly like Phil Collins.  Like their solo music.  He said that they both play poppy crap, which is true as far as Phil goes.  However, as poppy as Gabriel gets, he is nowhere near as poppy as Phil is... at his least poppy.

Another time before school I was passing the headphones around which were blaring out A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, and one said, "How can you like this?" and I said "You just don't like it because it's not commercial and innaccessible."  Another friend said, "No, it's probably just because it's crappy." 

I have another friend who claims to be open minded, because he listens to like every genre (Rap, rock, metal, punk, blues, reggae, jazz, etc)  However, I told him that with all of those, you know what you're getting and it's more or less accessible.  (The deepest he will wade into prog is some Rush, PF, Schizoid Man, and some Tull.)  He said that he hated Storm by GY!BE as soon as he heard it, and as far as post rock goes, that's one of the most likeable and accessible songs. 

Another one- I was playing Gates of Delirium as part of some in class project, and one kid said that we couldn't listen to metal for 20 minutes straight.  That was dumb.

My friends are morons when it comes to music, especially since they have a gnat's attention span and expect the goodness of songs to be present from the first second you here it.  Luckily I have one friend who likes prog, he comes to this site.  Posts here too, I think.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 20:47
Well, after about a  year of lurking, I step out of the shadows. Hello, all!

My Mom, on hearing some Genesis, I can't remember:
"This sounds like exorcism music!"
And, after 'Free Hand'
"This is really wierd. It sounds like Indian shamans on peyote." I'm sure she has never heard that before.

If anyone gets Discover magazine, a while ago there was an article about applications that learn and the evolving vocabulary of electronics, and the author used the example of Aqualung to say if one doesn't like the song being played on a media player that 'learned' by what one says they don't like, you press the 'never again' button and the 'horrible' flute solo would be gone forever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2006 at 21:08

Church Organ solo during CTTE - My mom askes, "Did somebody die?"

We got to pump the stuff to make us tough
from the heart
Its astart
What we need is awareness we cant get careless
Mental self defensive fitness
Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be
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