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Topic: porcupine tree-crap Posted: February 22 2006 at 03:12 |
yet another disappointing modern band I heard for the first time ;). They can go in the rubbish bin with Tool and Spocks beard. I have a feeling that Mars volta will be more of the same lol
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 03:23 |
gentletull wrote:
yet another disappointing modern band I heard for the first time ;). They can go in the rubbish bin with Tool and Spocks beard. I have a feeling that Mars volta will be more of the same lol |
Why don't you get a bigger rubbish bin and put yourself in there too?
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 03:31 |
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 03:38 |
Putting them in the rubbish bin after hearing them for the first time indicates a lack of understanding about how to approach prog.
I know if I had taken that attitude to some of my now favourite bands, I would have missed out on a lifetime of great music.
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 03:49 |
gentletull wrote:
yet another disappointing modern band I heard for the first time ;). They can go in the rubbish bin with Tool and Spocks beard. I have a feeling that Mars volta will be more of the same lol |
Which album did you listen ? I suggest not to begin with "Deadwing" and "In absentia", they're too 'metal' IMHO and I was disappointed too, although I liked PT since 1995.
Give them a second chance with "Lightbulb sun", "Stupid dream" or "Signify".
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 03:54 |
gentletull wrote:
yet another disappointing modern band I heard for the first time ;). They can go in the rubbish bin with Tool and Spocks beard. I have a feeling that Mars volta will be more of the same lol |
When you start to dis the new music, you know you're getting old.
I don't think you will like Mars Volta either if you expect it to be like Gentle Giant or Jethro Tull. But they are a great group, kind of King Crimson meets Jeff Buckley with a little Mahavishnu Orchestra, salsa and the kitchen sink.
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 04:42 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Putting them in the rubbish bin after hearing them for the first time indicates a lack of understanding about how to approach prog.
I know if I had taken that attitude to some of my now favourite bands, I would have missed out on a lifetime of great music.
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Oh GT! How could you consign PT to the dustbin after one listen?? If you listened to "Deadwing" first up - then I could understand you not liking the metal nature of that album. I was introduced to PT via "In Absentia" more specifically, the Mp3 of "The Sound of Muzak" from that album. I was impressed and was determined to find out more. Now I own 8 Porcupine Tree albums and if you are not into Metal my recommendation is "The Sky Moves Sideways" - not metal more psychedelic, space orientated. Lots of ambience and a true master piece from PT's Steve Wilson. Give them another go with some of their back catalogue and let us know whether you have changed your mind - Cheers
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 04:49 |
gentletull wrote:
yet another disappointing modern band I heard for the first time ;). They can go in the rubbish bin with Tool and Spocks beard. I have a feeling that Mars volta will be more of the same lol |
You started that post with a lower case letter and ended it without a full stop. I have a feeling your future posts will be more of the same. Much to learn you have.
BTW, what does 'in replace of' mean?
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 04:54 |
i find that porcupine tree just sound naff and cheesy as with much
modern prog i have heard. i think i would tend to agree with you.
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 05:06 |
the man machine wrote:
i find that porcupine tree just sound naff and cheesy as with much modern prog i have heard. i think i would tend to agree with you.
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I don't see the relevance of such generic comments about Porcupine Tree. All of their albums are very different from each other, so all that these generic comments show is that someone doesn't really know them.
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 05:17 |
gentletull wrote:
yet another disappointing modern band I heard for the first time ;). They can go in the rubbish bin with Tool and Spocks beard. I have a feeling that Mars volta will be more of the same lol |
Gentle me ol son you will have to give them a good listening to as they are in my opinion a truly wonderful modern day prog band.What album did you listen to that could possibly make you have such a swift ill judged assessment.Take the good advice already given on this thread and you will enjoy.Surely you know you have to give music more than one listen.
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 05:18 |
Sounds like your rubbish bin would be one worth to rummage about, Gentletull. What material from Porcy Tree did you hear then? Just curious, that´s all. I only have the last two records, In Absentia and Deadwing, and they are both great as far as I'm concerned. 'Arriving Somewhere' is a modern day classic if there ever was one, and I believe it will stand the test of time admirably.
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 05:35 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Putting them in the rubbish bin after hearing them for the first time indicates a lack of understanding about how to approach prog.
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Quite right. I had to listen to Stupid Dream several times before deciding to take it to the second hand shop.
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 05:41 |
I´m with EASY..Give them a chance fer Christ sake !!!!!
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 05:45 |
I can tell straight awway when I won't get much out of a band. I listened to deadwing and I know it will never do anything for me. It's doesn't meet my standards . Old music is the best. It doesn't just sound awesome straight away, it is gets better after more listens :). I recommend everyone search and search for all the great old music because it's better than todays rock music . I listened to Wobbler today and it sounds like a complete copy of tull, gentle giant, camel, genesis, elp and yes lol. It sounds alot better than porcupine and tool etc, but it was so much of a copy it was embarrasing
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 05:46 |
I´ll give your standards a kick in the knee......
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 05:50 |
Have you tried any neo prog? IQ are closer to traditional prog than Porcupine Tree.
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 05:52 |
gentletull wrote:
I can tell straight awway when I won't get much out of a band. I listened to deadwing and I know it will never do anything for me. It's doesn't meet my standards . Old music is the best. It doesn't just sound awesome straight away, it is gets better after more listens :). I recommend everyone search and search for all the great old music because it's better than todays rock music . I listened to Wobbler today and it sounds like a complete copy of tull, gentle giant, camel, genesis, elp and yes lol. It sounds alot better than porcupine and tool etc, but it was so much of a copy it was embarrasing |
That's your problem. You expect new music to sound exactly like the old music or else you don't like it. But if the new music does sound exactly like the old music you call it a copy.
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 06:00 |
That's why I hardly listen to new music, because all the great ideas are pretty much gone lol
Kick me in the knee so i can drop down to your lower standards? ;)
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Posted: February 22 2006 at 06:02 |
It sounds like you have a lot of preconceptions about any new music, Gentletull... And I´m afraid you are losing out unless you start widening your standards a bit, lol. Of course, you could try some of the other new popular music, not just prog, perhaps that would work out better for you. ANYTHING to make you discover some of the GREAT new music out there!
Not that the oldies are not fantastic -I, too, love to add them to my collection- but from time to time it´s kind of healthy to come up for air as it can get a bit 'dusty' when exclusively dwelling in the golden 60´s and 70´s, lol!
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