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Topic: Blue Oyster Cult on progarchives?
Posted: February 16 2006 at 20:36

Blue Oyster Cult (BOC)

Many refer to their first four albums as the "black and white" period because of their black and white cover art. These albums comprise of their prog rock period.

With Agents of Fortune they start to got pop/rock.

However, their live album ON YOUR FEET OR ON YOUR KNEES .Is a must for anyone who loves live rock and roll, it rivals Zep's How the West Was Won.

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Posted: February 16 2006 at 18:24

Too many time I do not listen to BOC!!!

Tomorrow I'll go with Tyranny and Mutation

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Posted: February 16 2006 at 03:13

BOC have come up before; http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11182& amp; amp;KW=blue+oyster+cult

Having listened very carefully to Queensryche, I don't see why they're here either - their music is just recycled Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, but with less melody and feeling and more of that pedantic "must be technically superior and accurate" approach that kills the soul of music.

So Queensryche don't make the grade - it's just that for as long as I can remember they've had the Prog Metal label.

Don't ask me why - I really don't understand it

I agree, though - "Cultosaurus Erectus" is a magnificent album, and very nearly prog in places. The follow-up "Fire Of Unknown Origin" is brilliant too.

On Supertramp - the two albums "Crime of the Century" and "Even in the Quietest Moments" justify their existence in the archives alone, IMO.

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Posted: February 15 2006 at 18:45

Blue Oyster Cult´s lyrics are very Sci Fi yet thought provoking. I have Cultasaurus Erectus which is really good! I say if bands like Queensryche make the grade, so too should Blue Oyster Cult Smile

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Posted: February 11 2006 at 00:03

27-11 wrote:

Supertramp in, BOC currently out! What's all that about!?

This is the kind of argument that could change us into a general rock, pop, prog site like Allmusic.

I'm not sure if Supertramp should be considered Prog', but they are already in and nobody will take them out because of the politic of the site, and to be honest, Crime of the Century is very close to Prog.

But the fact that a non Prog band has been admited doesn't allow us to make the same mistake over and over. Two mistakes don't make a correct choice.

BOC is a hard rock band and nothing more IMO, they shouldn't be here, if you want to add soime similar band, do it with Led Zeppelin that has a lot of Prog' elements and has been kept out for too much time.

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Posted: February 10 2006 at 20:40

Supertramp in, BOC currently out! What's all that about!?

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Posted: February 10 2006 at 12:00

Lorak wrote:

ryan wrote:

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"History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man, Godzilla!"

Yeah, real intelligent!"

-I couldnt agree more.

BOC was a very progressive band. They progressed the cowbell, and brought it to musical levels that all others were afraid to try. Seriously dont fear the reaper, man.

I think they are turds.

Speak for yourself You are showing that you are 'real intelligent'.

It's obvious to me that all you've heard is the radio hits and the SNL skit with More CowBell.

well done, Lorak!

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Posted: January 29 2006 at 16:25

I don't think BOC were even nearly as progressive as Queen, but seeing the bands that are currently being added, then I have to now agree that they're definitely prog-related.

Although I think that's more or less what I said, but with a slightly more positive "spin".

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Posted: January 26 2006 at 17:54

I believe BOC is just as progressive as Queen for instance. They had a few radio hits a long time ago, but a lot fewer than Queen. Surely those hits wasn't prog but still they're quite prog related on some albums. They should be in the PA.

We're only in it for the music!!!

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Posted: November 05 2005 at 15:55

BOC are a superb band, and highly underrated - it's such a pity that people only seem to judge them by their hits.

I don't think they really count as Prog Rock - although they did some really progressive things - Black Blade/Monsters on "Cultosaurus Erectus" is brilliant, and I love the way it drops seamlessly into jazz from a massively heavy riff and back again. "Cultosaurus.." is my favourite BOC album. "Fire of Unknown Origin" likewise is brilliant, with some proggy moments - but no "pure" prog, and the list goes on in their back catalogue with a few "turkey" moments among the brilliance.

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Posted: November 05 2005 at 13:21

"History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man, Godzilla!"

Yeah, real intelligent!"

-I couldnt agree more.

BOC was a very progressive band. They progressed the cowbell, and brought it to musical levels that all others were afraid to try. Seriously dont fear the reaper, man.

I think they are turds.

-ryan

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Posted: November 04 2005 at 11:27

Blue Oyster Cult is my second favorite band of all time behind Hawkwind.

Albums with prog influence...

MAYBE a handful of songs off the first two albums ("Wings Wetted Down," "7 Screaming Dizbusters")

Perhaps half of the Secret Treaties album (the first few songs, and the last few songs)

Scattered tracks off of their Secret Treaties -> Revolution By Night period

The closest they ever got to prog was Imaginos... a synth-laden and experimental release.

I will be featuring some tracks off that album in my prog radio show sometime in the future if anyone is interested. I've already got the setlist for next week set, but for the week after that I'll play something like "Les Invisibles," "In the Presence of Another World," or "Blue Oyster Cult." Imaginos is really a special album, and even if you do not consider it to be progressive, I think it would appeal to prog fans.

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Posted: November 04 2005 at 06:13

bluetailfly wrote:

I look forward putting on my headphones and undergoing into my first experience of "Flaming Telepaths." There's a prog title if there ever was one.

Please do so and let us know what you think. You might be surprised when you hear it. I really think that you can't judge, like you have, this band just based on their radio hits.

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 17:45

Andrea Cortese wrote:

1972

1973

1974

1977

1981

1988

These albums have something to say...

Okay, I'm gonna go into this with an open mind...

"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 17:41

1972

1973

1974

1977

1981

1988

These albums have something to say...

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 17:16

geezer wrote:

Bluetailfly,

I do not think that it is a shameful crime that BÖC is not included here. Actually, if I had the power to decide there wouldn't be any prog-related artists in the archives. I have noticed that "all" people here who want to include bands are totally driven by their emotions rather than dominated by a reason. I never let my feelings about some band have an effect on my opinion if it should be included or not. So, I do not really care if BÖC is included or not. I made my previous post only because it was easy to read through the lines that you are not really familiar with this band at all (no pun intended).

If you have the possibility to listen to Secret Treaties it would be interesting to know what you think about songs like "Flaming Telepaths" or "Astronomy". Just rock mediocrity? Do you really think the lyrics are bad? Let us know.

I agree, I think the prog-related category is a bad idea for this website.

Now as for "reading through the lines to see that I am not familiar with the band" well, I'm not extremely familiar with their catalogue, no. But I don't think you need to familiarize yourself with a band's entire catalogue before you pass judgement on them. I've only heard the hits by the B-52s, but I'm pretty certain they are not prog. There were times I've heard albums by BOC that others have played for me and I know they are not prog or even proggy.

I look forward putting on my headphones and undergoing into my first experience of "Flaming Telepaths." There's a prog title if there ever was one.

"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."

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Posted: November 03 2005 at 17:06

Blue Oyster Cult is one of my favourite bands ever!! Cool

It's absolutely natural for me hope it's possible to add them on PA!

There's prog in their discography. Even if not in the most part, proggy examples are great and very interesting!

What a pity if PA will not include them! Cry

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Posted: October 21 2005 at 15:57

Bluetailfly,

I do not think that it is a shameful crime that BÖC is not included here. Actually, if I had the power to decide there wouldn't be any prog-related artists in the archives. I have noticed that "all" people here who want to include bands are totally driven by their emotions rather than dominated by a reason. I never let my feelings about some band have an effect on my opinion if it should be included or not. So, I do not really care if BÖC is included or not. I made my previous post only because it was easy to read through the lines that you are not really familiar with this band at all (no pun intended).

If you have the possibility to listen to Secret Treaties it would be interesting to know what you think about songs like "Flaming Telepaths" or "Astronomy". Just rock mediocrity? Do you really think the lyrics are bad? Let us know.

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Posted: October 21 2005 at 14:42

Hello geezer,

I have to admit that "Secret Treaties" has managed to elude me all these years. But, if you are so adamant that BOC's music is a hidden prog gem, or prog-related gem, and that it is a shameful crime that they haven't been inducted into this website after all these years, I'll get it and check it out.

BUT, if it's a bunch of rock-structured mediocrity with guitar solos, I'm...I'm...I'm...well, I don't know what I'm going to do, but you can bet I'll resurrect this post and blast BOC like they've never been blasted before...that's my promise to you, geezer!

"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."

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Posted: October 21 2005 at 14:21

Bluetailfly,

How well do you know BÖC's discography? Have you heard albums like "Secret Treaties"?

I just ask this because you mention only those radio hits which do not really represent this band well and definitely not the progressive side of it. Like I said, I think Godzilla is the worst BÖC song and even Don't Fear the Reaper is only a little above average (though the live versions smoke!).