Lateralus?!

transend wrote: I am still confused and astonished they are even here.......... I (fortunatley) borrowed 'Lateralus', the cover is amazing, the music totally did not live up to it. I don't think it is remotely prog and any shape or form. The guys can play, I did hear that. However, I don't know why they are included here, but I feel that about many bands on this site; like Radiohead, Muse etc.. Should be a warning on reviews saying: IF YOU LIKE TRADITIONAL PROGRESSIVE ROCK, AVOID THIS WITH A VERY LARGE OAR But, hey, we are entitled to our opinion. Maybe we should tell those muslims burning Danish flags that eh?

i hate that this term can be used...and it actually makes sense     does anyone else see a contradiction??

Erpland316 wrote: What exactly is tradtional progressive rock?  I will never understand the constant battle of people over 30 or 40 on this website who cringe and dispise most "modern progressive rock", if that term should even be used.  Progressive is about moving foward, if all the bands around today copied all of the classic prog of the 60's/70's then we would have Neo-prog(the worst genre of progressive music).  I would like to think that the people who were part of these great bands would hate to listen to something that sounds exactly like Genesis or Yes AGAIN!  How many times can these bands try to completely copy the sounds of Peter Gabriel of David Gilmour?  Maybe that is why progressive rock is dying?!  I love all kinds of music, especially progressive rock, but I hope that the majority of the readers on this website would agree that the word progressive is about progressing and about moving away from the mainstream and creating NEW ideas, not rehashing clever ideas that made the classic bands such as Yes, Genesis, Floyd, Camel so amazing!  Bands like THe Mars Volta, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Radiohead, Mum, GPYBE and of course TOOL push the bar foward and are helping to bring back a completely DEAD genre of music!  Support these bands, because without them, progressive rock will surely die forever.

You first say that progressive is about progressing and not copying what has been done and then you say that bands like those you mentioned are trying to bring back a dead genre. It doesnt make sense to me.

IMO progressive if you define it as progression in music never died. Its just that nowadays we dont have as many good bands as in the 70's for example

Yeah, I don't think that progressive music is dead at all. Some of the stereotypical newer prog bands on this site lack any progressive quality. That's not to say that the band is bad. Not at all. Nor does it mean that just because a band is progressive they are good. What we have now are bands that claim to be progressive on the basis that they are "in the style of older progressive rock bands." Are they really progressive? Well, no because no musical progress has been gained by modeling already accomplished styles.

But that's what happens when you tightly define a genre as something that evolves. Musical genre is classification and as such forms restrictions whereas the only requirement on progressive music is that it not obey restrictions!

btw, if you think progressive music is dead, check out the IDM/drum and bass scene.

SolariS wrote: mars VOLt wrote: One of the best album i've heard in my entire life. long life tool, can't wait for the next album   ....boy do i have some bad news for you! (5 year old bad news)

Why?

They take about 5 years between albums,the new one should be out this year.

TheProgtologist wrote: There is nothing worse than close-minded prog purists.

Or maybe Tool are just plain crap?