flower Kings ... as good as genesis??

I never imagined myself saying this, but I think the Flower kings grown so much on me that I like them more than Yes (my previous #1 band), now I like them as much as Genesis and only Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are more enjoyable (and barely).

This band has everything I want: Consistency, a discography with no weak albums, very few weak tracks, Beautiful atmospherics that surpasses 70s yes (because of the modern technology), Good epics, a guitarist as complete as Steve Howe who has a neat bluesy vocal style, A great bass player that reminds me of David Lebon (Seru Giran), and some of the best percussion I've heard. The keyboardist is my least favourite member (after the new bass player and the drummers came), but he still manages to sound great most of the time. His album "I AM" is pretty good.

I wish this band would get more recognition. It has the virtuosity of Yes and the beauty of Genesis. I also like the general happy tone of it. It sounds like Progged-up beatles in the first albums.

Sometimes, they amaze me when they get influenced. "The World of Adventures" which is clearly influenced by the beatles sound as good as the beatles best songs. Rumble Twist Fish is clearly influenced by Camel, and it sounds better than anything Camel did.

By the way, in "hummanizmo" (one of my favourite epic from Roine by the way) has 2 things that just blow me away : The church organ riffary + "THIS IS THE NIGHT" and when the epic is about to end ... I hear an awesome wail from Roine. Trust me, it puts the dude from Pain of Salvation to shame.

Anyways, I'll stop rambling.

Flower Kings ---> Prog Kings.

I should edit my reviews as I like them much more as before.

 

I`ve had a great deal of respect for The Flower kings for many years, great band   However I think Gabriel Genesis is Brilliant also , Yes in Flower Kings own way they do provide me as much enjoyment I think

The last two Flower Kings albums are so astonishing and near polar opposites. The Flower Kings have covered more ground than most bands are able, because a group with true talent can sound anyway they want. Take for example the jazz-influenced "Unfold The Future", to the well laid out aspects of "Adam & Eve", and think about how this band could make more mainstream-sounding music, such as the songs off of "The Rainmaker" and "Space Revolver". I feel like The Flower Kings have gone from sounding like UK, to Yes, to maybe Genesis, to just sounding like the Flower Kings with their latest album. If their 2006 album sounds different than everything else they have previously done then they may very well be my new favorite band, as for now I feel the same as Zitro pretty much. I listen to Yes, Led Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd along with The Flower Kings. Talk about four amazing bands....

The flower kings are the kings of prog..they are fantastic playing together or as a side proyect[just roine played in kaipa,transatlantic,the tangret  and solo artist].By the way the bass player of seru giran was pedro aznar,david lebon was on guitar and vocals.[seru giran is the best prog band for argentina.ok after crusis]

I'll give a thumbs up to that NO as well....

Prog-jester wrote: Are you kidding me???????? Hell NO!!Transatlantic,for instance,is more influenced by Beatles (just listen to Suite Charlotte Pike...a tribute to Abbey Road,IMHO ),while TFK, along with Spock's Beard,are just FOLLOWERS of Yes,Camel and even Dream Theater.I'd rather prefer the second-quality neo-prog band,than something from this "new sympho" stuff.They'll never reach the position,that the old prog occupies.How can the New music emerge from the old basis? A new messiahs???Ha-Ha!! They're a making a 4-stars CDs,not more.That's their maximum IMHO,Toll & Opeth sound much progger and interesting then these cheesy guys Well...that's does NOT mean ,that I'm NOT listening to them I have few albums from each band(TFK,SB,Trans etc),but I just despise their attitude to what their doing.Who do they think they are???

WOW  thats just your opinion prog jester just "your" opinion

samuel.jeronimo wrote: NetsNJFan wrote: transend wrote: In a word, NO yep Yep too

Yep four!!!!

Let us not loose sense of perspective: they do not come to waist-height of the 70's giants

While I agree that TFK's discography is much more even than Genesis or Yes, these guys invented NOTHING, pumping everything from the afore-mentioned groups, downright copying ans almost plagiarising them. I can only classify them as retro-prog - although I must admit the last album I listened from them is Stardust We Are but the last I heard was Space Revolver , but there is albsolutely no difference.

I always wondered if these guys were not the most aimless band around , making extra long tracks for no good reasons except just making them long. They just meander around, making circles, head North East South and West butactually go nowhere.

And they were dismal , the only time I ever saw them, live.

They stopped halfway through Retropolis (the tour was promoting that album or Stardust), because they could not do it all. But if memory serves me well, this was therir first tour with a permanent line-up

The Flower Kings are easily, in my opinion, the best thing happening in music today. 

...and what's this!?

NO.  It's extremely unlikely that The Flower Kings will ever even come close to the quality, originality, and intricacy of Genesis. 

Personally, I don't think much of them.  I wouldn't mind returning my copy of Adam and Eve (an utter waste of money IMHO).

 

I'm going to go ahead and agree with you. The Flower Kings' musicianship and compositions are at the same level of quality, and I find them very enjoyable. The only thing is that Genesis was way before The Flower Kings. I think that's why everybody writes stuff like this off so quickly. The music is as good, but it's not as important (historically) or influential. I think it's unfair to judge based on the aforementioned.

It's like this in all areas of music it seems. When you ask someone who the greatest guitarist of all time is, majortiy vote will probably be to Jimi Hendrix. Why is this? Surely, it isn't because of his skill or songwriting. It's because of his groundbreaking ideas and techniques. He influenced so many. Nowadays, if you put Jimi up against (roughly) any guitarist (especially in prog), the other guy will destroy him.

So, I think The Flower Kings are as good, and as enjoyable as Genesis, but they will never get as much credit because of their chronological place in music.