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sbrushfan
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Topic: Best Song On "VAPOR TRAILS"? Posted: January 26 2006 at 16:34 |
This is probably (IMO) Rush's most aggressive and controversial record since the 70's. It's taken a lot of flack for poor mixing and production, much in the way that Metallica got a lot of sh*t for "St. Anger" (which, IMO, was fantastic). That said, what is your fave track? Mine is SWEET MIRACLE(gasp! OMG! GREAT!!!!!!), followed by VAPOR TRAIL.
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 16:38 |
1. your completely wrong about st. anger. :P (but then again I don't liek metallica anyway, what do I know)
2. I would vote Nocturne as one of my favorites on that album, with Freeze as a close second.
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sbrushfan
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 16:40 |
Prog_Bassist wrote:
1. your completely wrong about st. anger. :P (but then again I don't liek metallica anyway, what do I know)
2. I would vote Nocturne as one of my favorites on that album, with Freeze as a close second. |
How can an opinion be wrong? Remember, Prog_Bassist; taste is subjective.
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Drew
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 16:44 |
Earthshine- great chorus
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sbrushfan
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 16:59 |
^ Yes, it is. Very hummable and melodic.
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 17:05 |
sbrushfan wrote:
Prog_Bassist wrote:
1. your completely wrong about st. anger. :P (but then again I don't liek metallica anyway, what do I know) 2. I would vote Nocturne as one of my favorites on that album, with Freeze as a close second. |
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I know that, I wasn't serious.
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The Letter M
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 17:32 |
I was going to pick Freeze, but remembered how great Earthshine is. My 3rd fave would be Secret Touch, followed by Vapor Trail, but they're all really great songs!
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thefalafelking
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 17:45 |
I voted for Ghost rider. Great bass riff intro.
I'd like to use this occasion to make an observation: I think it's a shame that so many people misunderstood this album, especially the sound of it (like I read in recnt reviews on this site). There is nothing wrong with the sound, it's not true that Rush made a mess of it. It's just clear that they wanted to guy in a slightly different direction. The songs are very mature and the sound feels very modern and comfortable with me! Rush succeeded very well in creating a small masterpiece. A piece of their own really. You can't blame 'em for the sound, especially when you know how they cared for the sound on their previous records! Besides, as prog fans you should learn to cope with progressions! isn't that a logical and esential part of progressive music??
Vapor trails is yet another album that features Rush in excellent shape which means with great songwriting, great musicianship and artwork that is up-to-date, unlike some other bands that still release records (cf. jethro tull, uriah heep, deep purple ... bloody awful)
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SirPsycho388
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 17:53 |
My favorite is FREEZE, definately a classic Rush sound on that one. But i like alot of others too...
Earthshine, Nocturne, Vapor Trail, Secret Touch, Peaceable Kingdom, Ghost Rider, One Little Victory
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sbrushfan
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 17:59 |
thefalafelking wrote:
I voted for Ghost rider. Great bass riff intro.
I'd like to use this occasion to make an observation: I think it's a shame that so many people misunderstood this album, especially the sound of it (like I read in recnt reviews on this site). There is nothing wrong with the sound, it's not true that Rush made a mess of it. It's just clear that they wanted to guy in a slightly different direction. The songs are very mature and the sound feels very modern and comfortable with me! Rush succeeded very well in creating a small masterpiece. A piece of their own really. You can't blame 'em for the sound, especially when you know how they cared for the sound on their previous records! Besides, as prog fans you should learn to cope with progressions! isn't that a logical and esential part of progressive music??
Vapor trails is yet another album that features Rush in excellent shape which means with great songwriting, great musicianship and artwork that is up-to-date, unlike some other bands that still release records (cf. jethro tull, uriah heep, deep purple ... bloody awful)
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Excellent point(s), Falafel. You should write a review with those words you used. I couldn't have said it better; frankly, I can't agree more. Thank You. <brought a tear to my eye>
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el_Sethro
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 18:38 |
I can't choose. This is one of
my favorite Rush albums, as there are not any weak tracks. My favorite
would be either One Little Victory, Ceiling Unlimited, Ghost Rider,
Peacable Kingdom, Stars Look Down, Vapor Trail, or Earthshine. (doesn't
realy narrow it down, but it's the best I can do)
also, has anyone else noticed that though Rush is a Canadian band, they
use the American spelling of "Vapor" (instead of the Canadian/British
spelling of "Vapour")? I felt a bit betrayed when I noticed...
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thefalafelking
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 18:39 |
sbrushfan wrote:
thefalafelking wrote:
I voted for Ghost rider. Great bass riff intro.
I'd like to use this occasion to make an observation: I think it's a shame that so many people misunderstood this album, especially the sound of it (like I read in recnt reviews on this site). There is nothing wrong with the sound, it's not true that Rush made a mess of it. It's just clear that they wanted to guy in a slightly different direction. The songs are very mature and the sound feels very modern and comfortable with me! Rush succeeded very well in creating a small masterpiece. A piece of their own really. You can't blame 'em for the sound, especially when you know how they cared for the sound on their previous records! Besides, as prog fans you should learn to cope with progressions! isn't that a logical and esential part of progressive music??
Vapor trails is yet another album that features Rush in excellent shape which means with great songwriting, great musicianship and artwork that is up-to-date, unlike some other bands that still release records (cf. jethro tull, uriah heep, deep purple ... bloody awful)
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Excellent point(s), Falafel. You should write a review with those words you used. I couldn't have said it better; frankly, I can't agree more. Thank You. <brought a tear to my eye>
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Thanks a lot!! I'll surely write a more elaborate review containing these thougts when I've got some more time (I'm doing exams at the moment!)
cheers!
tflfkng
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 19:53 |
The city crouches, steaming In the early morning half-light The sun is still a rumor And the night is still a threat
Slipping through the dark streets And the echoes and the shadows Something stirs behind me And my palms begin to sweat
Sometimes I freeze - until the light comes Sometimes I fly - into the night Sometimes I fight - against the darkness Sometimes I'm wrong - sometimes I'm right
Coiled for the spring Or caught like a creature in the headlights Into a desperate panic Or a tempest of blind fury Like a cornered beast Or a conquering hero
The menace threatens, closing And I'm frozen in the shadows I'm not prepared to run away And I'm not prepared to fight
I can't stand to reason Or surrender to a reflex I will trust my instincts Or surrender to my fright
Sometimes we freeze - until the light comes Sometimes we're wrong - and sometimes we're right Sometimes we fight - against the darkness Sometimes we fly - into the night
Blood running cold Mind going down into a dark night Of a desperate panic Or a tempest of blind fury Like a cornered beast Or a conquering hero
Sometimes I freeze Sometimes I fight Sometimes I fly Into the night
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 20:00 |
For me it's One Little Victory.
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 20:21 |
Freeze does it for me.
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HOLDING OUT A BLOODY SWORD
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 20:59 |
I am a huge Rush fan. That said, I feel that Vapour Trails is a great album, with Rush exploring some new territory and going for a truly organic sound, with an almost Emo feel at times. I have no problem with this as the album is solid in terms of the songwriting, however, the album's sound quality is terrible at times. It is not simply a matter of the band wanting to go in a different direction, the album was mastered too loud, the evidence can be found in the many instances of clipping that occur - that is, parts of the music, mainly drum parts, are lost in the overwhelming volume. When I listen to the album I often hear crackle and fuzz in the louder sections which is a terribly obvious flaw which I find hard to excuse or pass off as the intended sound the band was after.
Actually, I can remember when Vapor Trails was first released Geddy did an interview in which he said he thought the album sounded terrible when he first heard it. He said he talked to Alex about it, but Alex reassured him that it was great and there was nothing to worry about.... Geddy knew it and Alex was in denial! So they should hurry up and remaster the damn thing!!!
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 21:20 |
I love Rush ! but I hated vapor trails
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 22:11 |
I am possibly the biggest rush fan going, and for me a good album is one you keep going back to and listening to over and over again (fragile, anyone?) and this album didnt do that for me. Its not bad, by any streach of the imagination, but it aint no 2112. heck, it not evan a Signals. I just think mabey they can do a little better, is all.
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 22:28 |
Peaceable Kingdom. The verses are rather annoying IMO, but that chorus is just fantastic. I love Geddy's Steve Harris-esque rolling bassline on the chorus.
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Posted: January 27 2006 at 07:35 |
Earthshine
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