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Winter Wine
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Topic: Only 3 Floyd albums worth a damn.... Posted: January 21 2006 at 07:35 |
Pafnutij wrote:
Ah, DTOSM. One of the most boring albums ever made  |

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Poxx
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Posted: January 21 2006 at 07:09 |
There was a time when some newbie would open up a thread about "DSotM is prog" and then quickly being taken down by anyone carrying a brain. Those times are apparently over.
Are Pink Floyd good? Many people think so.
Is the Dark Side of the Moon a progressive rock record? No, it is not.
Is it an all round great record, technically, thematically, and production wise? Yes.
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Publius84
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Posted: January 20 2006 at 17:37 |
BitchBrew wrote:
Prog... not prog.... who gives a sh*t? Its the qualite of the music
that matters. I know tons of non-prog music that will kick the sh*t out
of alot of the most famous "prog-music". Just because alot of the floyd
stuff dont qualifie as prog doesnt mean that it isnt good music. Jeeez
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I know what I like and I like what I know...
Prog is in my heart, in my mind, in my soul...
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Posted: January 20 2006 at 17:34 |
dark side is borrrrrrrrrrrrring :)
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Syntharachnid
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Posted: January 20 2006 at 16:50 |
Hmmm...
Can't quite say I agree with you. Floyd had more than their fair share of prog brilliance throughout their career, and almost all of their albums are at least kind of proggy. For me, their proggiest (and best) are Saucerful, Umma, AHM, Meddle, DSOM, WYWH and Animals. I agree with many of the above posters that DSOM is prog, but I also agree with you that it is their most overrated album, and that the similar sounding WYWH is FAR SUPERIOR. Piper, More, OBC, Final Cut and DivBell are all somewhat prog, and I actually like many of these better than DSOM. Thier poppiest albums are The Wall (one of my favorites nonetheless, and it does have some prog aspects) and AMLoR (my least favorite Floyd album).
Just my view.
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flaxton
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Posted: January 20 2006 at 16:10 |
progressive means progress. pink floyd progressed from their first album up until the final cut. end of story.
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BitchBrew
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Posted: January 19 2006 at 11:52 |
Prog... not prog.... who gives a sh*t? Its the qualite of the music
that matters. I know tons of non-prog music that will kick the sh*t out
of alot of the most famous "prog-music". Just because alot of the floyd
stuff dont qualifie as prog doesnt mean that it isnt good music. Jeeez
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The Mars Volta, Mike Patton, Frank Zappa, Pink Floyd, Liquid Tension Experiment
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dunguinha
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Posted: January 19 2006 at 00:40 |
Man ... you're crazy ,.. I dont think that you have ever heard The Dark Side of the Moon to the end ...
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1 - The Dark Side of the Moon - PINK FLOYD
2 - Crime of the Century - Supertramp
3- Close to the Edge - YES
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Thufir Hawat
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Posted: January 18 2006 at 21:07 |
Psychedelic is prog that’s why the band
Is on this web site. I believe that almost
All Flyod albums are progressive especially
Dark Side of the Moon. How is Meddle not
Prog?
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"I can't see through my eye lids"
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Norbert
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Posted: January 18 2006 at 02:56 |
Echoes is surely more prog than anythig on The Wall.
The Wall is still a rather good album.
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Paulieg
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 10:09 |
Have you listened to "Atom Heart Mother" or "Meddle." I find these albums more proggressive than "The Wall."
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Empathy
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 10:05 |
Certif1ed wrote:
I'd agree with arcer, but I'd say everything from "Piper..." through to "Final Cut" is great.
Maybe "More" isn't so great, "AMH" has weak spots (Alan's
Psychedelic Breakfast), and "Final Cut" is a bit like The Wall part II,
but everything else shows a band strongly progressing and writing very
strong and genre-defining Prog Rock - with only a handful of songs
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I agree completely.
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 07:53 |
It's hard for me to think of Floyd as anything other than prog rock, even when it comes to their less 'progressive' albums like Division Bell.
Their entire output between 1967 and 1983 was most definately prog. It may have lacked the techical intricacies of Yes, Gentle Giant & co, but Floyd had broken the rules of popular music. Their experimentation, blended with their extended play and ability to conjure up atmosphere and feel totally alien to all other pop and rock music made them prog by default.
I think their best albums were Meddle and Animals..
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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edible_buddha
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 05:53 |
Floyd broke a lot of ground in many different ways... As well as genre hopping in the process, some of their earlier albums tend to combine psychedelic and prog in such a manner that categorisation would be meaningless anyway (In particular, a good chunk of 'Saucerful...').
Not only that, they wrote music as a band, as opposed to being four 'virtuoso' musos... so there would be some rather uninspiring solo efforts that appear essential for the creation of some classic tunes... (Rogers bass in DSOTM has been mention by some proggers here as an example)... so there may be some confusion as to where to put this band. (thou DSOTM could hardly be placed as pop)
Not all their stuff is prog, and previous posts where some have 'categorised' which album goes where are similiar to where I would place them if I really had to... But what they did to music has given bliss to soo many, that the 'prog or not prog' is almost irrelivant
Anyhoe, 'Atom heart mother', 'Echoes', and the entire DSOTM ensures that the band is well place here
So.....There.
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I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long.
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Pafnutij
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 03:27 |
Ah, DTOSM. One of the most boring albums ever made
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The Miracle
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 02:10 |
I hate The Wall It was the beginning of the decadence Dark Side was their most commercial album, second after The Wall in poppiness.
When it comes to prog, the Piper - Obscured By Clouds era is the best IMO. The most experimentation and progression happened then.
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pero
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 02:05 |
The wall is less progressive than Atom hearth mother, Medlle and DSOTM; Ummagumma
It's boring also.
If you can't stand Gentle giant and Genesis try with other styles, don't bother with prog 
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richardh
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 01:42 |
DSOTM is a good album but its nowhere near the prog masterpeice that many would like to believe.Its an example of the type of prog where inspiration and energy is sacrificed for consistency and way too much (over) production.
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Harold Dupont
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 01:17 |
Don't get wrong for my picture, I'm a Floyd fan, but I don't say anything just to make them be good to anyone's ears. There's something that seems to be wrong in your mentality: when something goes on radio with all other commercial stuff, does it necessarly means that it's dirt? Who decided that Money and Another brick in the wall would be on the radio all the time?? Of course not Floyd when they composed... And I'll say like others, early albums are excessively progressive, and The wall, though it's a good album, isn't that much. Not because something is popular that it's noit good, don't forget that. Personnaly, I don't really like VDGG albums, even if I see and know that they are really good albums when I listen to them but their music doesn't touch me that much... Could be the same for you, but you should see the material and the emotion that are in Floyd's music...
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 23:38 |
Pink Floyd 1967-1977 was as prog as they come
Meddle, AHM, Dark Side, Animals - all brilliant, progressive album
Pink Floyd is awesome (though not even in my top 15)
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