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toothpick2112
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Topic: Coheed and Cambria Posted: January 14 2006 at 21:27 |
Has anyone heard of these guys? Some say there prog some dont. I think they are very prog. They even have a hidden track called 2113. Were do you think they got that from? Coheed and Cambria is actually pretty popular mainstream. So do you think that Coheed and Cambria should be put on prog archives? I do.
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Schizoid Man
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 21:55 |
I just got a copy of Good Apollo. I'll get back to you on this!
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The Miracle
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 22:01 |
I listened to the songs on their official site and didn't like them at all... Sounded like teen oriented pop metal to me And the videos were laughably cheesy
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King of Loss
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 22:12 |
Coheed and Cambria is definitely Prog, just not very Prog
I think they deserve to be at least on here as "Prog-Related", I mean if Vai is here, then so should Coheed and Cambria.
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Inferno
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 22:21 |
If Dredg is here, Coheed should definetely be here!!
They are part of why the Prog scene could come back to life with other bands like Muse, Oceansize, Dredg and mostly Mars volta!!
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chamberry
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 23:23 |
King of Loss wrote:
Coheed and Cambria is definitely Prog, just not very Prog
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exactly
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 23:29 |
Hmm, prog leanings, but not that prog. I'm still not sure about
them. I find the final track on Good Apollo... the best track and
that's the bluesy guitar one. Apollo: The Writer's Writer (or
whatever it's called) is a good track also.
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Oxygen Waster
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 00:30 |
I third that.(They definetly are OK though.good variety of instruments)
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CaincelaOreinim
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 00:48 |
Contrary to my rather biased posts on them in the past...I will say that they've definitely grown on me and they're one of the only bands in this new wave of turn-on-the-tv-and-what-band-do-i-see? types that I can actually tolerate and even like.
Arguments as to whether they're progressive or not...who the f**k cares? Can't you people just listen to music any more without having to stash them in self-righteous categories? Granted the argument being, then why am I here posting? and the answer being that there's many musical outlets to explore: simple, complex and everything in between...
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Drew
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 00:57 |
They don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Rush- let alone having a track called "2113"- not prog
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 01:18 |
oh good! let's start this argument for like the 400th time! great idea!
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JayDee
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 01:48 |
GoldenSpiral wrote:
oh good! let's start this argument for like the 400th time! great idea! |
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Oxygen Waster
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 02:01 |
Inferno wrote:
If Dredg is here, Coheed should definetely be here!!
They are part of why the Prog scene could come back to life with other bands like Muse, Oceansize, Dredg and mostly Mars volta!!
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True
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Littlewashu5
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 02:08 |
GoldenSpiral wrote:
oh good! let's start this argument for like the 400th time! great idea! |
The fact that this thread happens EVERY WEEK on this board should be more than enough proof that Coheed and Cambria are prog. Really, no other band that ISN'T in the archives is talked about more here than C&C. If the question of wether or not Coheed and Cambria are Prog or not HAS to be asked every 10 or so days, it's probably a very strong indication that they're Prog.
Personally, I think The collaborators should probably add them just so we stop getting threads like this.......
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Drew
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 02:12 |
^ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
haha
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horza
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 06:18 |
Coheed and Cambria are prog IMO and they deserve to be on here - I'm seeing them live soon and cannot wait.
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Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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mysterygoo
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 06:55 |
Since this has been brought up 400 times it seems like they'd just give in and add them, even the singer calls them prog. I'd also love to see the reviews of their albums on here.
Some common, though not universal, elements of progressive rock include:
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Long compositions, sometimes running over 20 minutes, with intricate
melodies and harmonies that require repeated listening to grasp. These
are often described as epics and are the genre's clearest nod to
classical music. An early example is the 23-minute "Echoes" by Pink
Floyd. Other famous examples include Jethro Tull's "Thick as a Brick"
(43 minutes), Yes' "Close to the Edge" (18 minutes) and Genesis'
"Supper's Ready" (23 minutes). More recent extreme examples are the
60-minute "Light of Day, Day of Darkness" by Green Carnation and
"Garden of Dreams" by The Flower Kings.
check. many songs are near 10 minutes.
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Lyrics that convey intricate and sometimes impenetrable narratives,
covering such themes as science fiction, fantasy, history, religion,
war, love, and madness. Many early 1970s progressive rock bands
(especially German ones) featured lyrics concerned with left-wing
politics and social issues.
check. their albums are based on a science fiction story concept albums: check. theyre all concept albums.
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Unusual vocal styles and use of multi-part vocal harmonies. See Magma, Robert Wyatt, and Gentle Giant.
check
Prominent use of electronic instrumentation — particularly keyboard
instruments such as the organ, piano, Mellotron, and Moog synthesizer,
in addition to the usual rock combination of electric guitar, bass and
drums.
check, kind of. a few of their songs have keyboards.
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An aesthetic linking the music with visual art, a trend started by The
Beatles with Sgt. Pepper's and enthusiastically embraced during the
prog heyday.
check. they have comic books based on the albums. I'm a fan obviously, I'd just like to see them on here.
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Space Dimentia
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 07:40 |
Iv been into them from the start! I love them they are an amazing band, They should be included because on a musical aspect they are very progressive plus if any more proof is needed they themselves call themselves a prog-rock band and are proud to call themselves that!
Come on guys you have let in bands that IMO don't even have a wiff of prog in them yet theses guys do and pigionhole themselves as thus!
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 07:59 |
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threefates
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Posted: January 15 2006 at 11:01 |
Ok.. so I tried this band out. Got the "In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth" cd... thought it sounded conceptual by the album title... but I can tell you.. THIS CD IS NOT PROG!!!
If all their stuff sounds like this cd... then they are not a prog band. Altho at times they can sound a bit like Queensryche... however I don't consider them prog either..
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