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    Posted: January 13 2006 at 10:10

Italian symphonic prog top 20 from www.progarchives .com: your opinion.

1   1972 4.44
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(63 ratings) 		PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM)
Per Un Amico
2   1973 4.45
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(53 ratings) 		ORME, LE
Felona e Sorona
3   1972 4.38
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(58 ratings) 		PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM)
Storia Di Un Minuto
4   1972 4.38
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(56 ratings) 		BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO
Darwin!
5   1974 4.33
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(61 ratings) 		MUSEO ROSENBACH
Zarathustra
6   1973 4.31
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(55 ratings) 		BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO
Io Sono Nato Libero
7   1972 4.33
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(48 ratings) 		BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
8   1977 4.28
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(46 ratings) 		LOCANDA DELLE FATE
Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Pił
9   1974 4.50
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(22 ratings) 		PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM)
L'isola di niente
10   1972 4.50
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(22 ratings) 		ORME, LE
Uomo Di Pezza
11   1971 4.48
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(23 ratings) 		NEW TROLLS
Concerto Grosso Per I New Trolls
12   1972 4.20
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(55 ratings) 		BALLETTO DI BRONZO, IL
Ys
13   1975 4.48
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(21 ratings) 		MAXOPHONE
Maxophone
14   1973 4.36
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(25 ratings) 		METAMORFOSI
Inferno
15   1973 4.33
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(27 ratings) 		ROVESCIO DELLA MEDAGLIA (RDM), IL
Contaminazione
16   1975 4.58
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music
(12 ratings) 		CHERRY FIVE
Cherry Five
17   1973 4.33
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(24 ratings) 		PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM)
Photos Of Ghosts
18   1973 4.44
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(16 ratings) 		CERVELLO
Melos
19   1995 4.26
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(27 ratings) 		NUOVA ERA
Il Passo Del Soldato
20   1974 4.27
Excellent addition to any prog music collection
(26 ratings) 		QUELLA VECCHIA LOCANDA
Il Tempo Della Gioia

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I'm not a big lover of Museo Rosenbach, but the Top Ten here is a brilliant bank of work.

No other single country could boast such a talented line-up.

I much prefer the original Italian versions of the early PFM albums and also rue the fact that they went so far downhill at the end of the 70's.Suonare is dreadful.
I dont think The New Trolls album has worn well and the Maxophone album is over-rated.
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Points: 7659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2006 at 11:57

Hello Andrea.

Good work and a splendid source for progheads who want to discover the wonderful Italian progrock. I'm very pleased with #16, Cherry Five, what a great CD! I only miss PFM Cook/USA and Sensitiva Immagine but that is of course subjective.

 
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My TOP 20 :

  1. 1972 - PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI ( PFM ) : STORIA DI UN MINUTO
  2. 1973 - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO ( BANCO ) : IO SONO NATO LIBERO
  3. 1971 - LE ORME : COLLAGE
  4. 1972 - PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI ( PFM ) : PER UN AMICO
  5. 1972 - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO ( BANCO ) : BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO
  6. 1973 - LE ORME : FELONA E SORONA
  7. 1972 - BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO ( BANCO ) : DARWIN
  8. 1972 - LE ORME : UOMO DI PEZZA
  9. 1974 - PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI ( PFM ) : ISOLA DI NIENTE
  10. 1971 - NEW TROLLS : CONCERTO GROSSO PER I NEW TROLLS
  11. 1972 - BALLETTO DI BRONZO : YS
  12. 1977 - LOCANDA DELLE FATE : FORSE LE LUCCIOLE NON SI AMANO PIU'
  13. 1973 - METAMORFOSI : INFERNO
  14. 1972 - MUSEO ROSENBACH : ZARATHUSTRA
  15. 1972 - QUELLA VECCHIA LOCANDA : QUELLA VECCHIA LOCANDA
  16. 1972 - REALE ACCADEMIA DI MUSICA : REALE ACCADEMIA DI MUSICA
  17. 1973 - JUMBO : VIETATO AI MINORI DI 18 ANNI?
  18. 1973 - OSANNA : PALEPOLI
  19. 1971 - IL ROVESCIO DELLA MEDAGLIA : LA BIBBIA
  20. 1974 - BIGLIETTO PER L' INFERNO : BIGLIETTO PER L' INFERNO
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Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

the Maxophone album is over-rated.

Sir, I must heartily disagree!!
"That's not your face...it's mine! IT'S MINE!!
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Originally posted by Chris_Kemp Chris_Kemp wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

the Maxophone album is over-rated.

Sir, I must heartily disagree!!

A classic Italian Prog release sung in Italian.....GREAT!!!
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Points: 825 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2006 at 17:24

i disagree with some albums...

where's Franco Falsini?
Alan Sorrenti's Aria?
Garybaldi's Astrolabio?
Circus 2000?
Ultima Spiaggia?


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Points: 12288 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2006 at 20:06

My God, the 20 albums listed form a FANTASTIC collection - I wish I have them all!

I'm a PFM fan and the 2 first Premiata's albums are in the top of my list in the same order they were released. Banco's "Darwin" and "Io Sono Nato Libero" comes after, followed by Le Orme's "Felona e Sorona" and again PFM with "L'Isola di Niente".

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This is a great list, I have heard most of them, only the Cherry Five hasn“t been in my stereo, but soon it will be played in it.

Some albums that I would consider as essential are:

  1. I Giganti - Terra In Bocca
  2. Alphataurus - Alphataurus
  3. Allusa Fallax - Intorno Alla Mia CattivaEducazione
  4. Celeste - Celeste
  5. Campo Di Marte - Campo Di Marte
  6. Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
  7. Nuova Idea - Clowns
  8. Festa Mobile - Diario di Viaggio della Festa Mobile
  9. Rustichelli & Bordini - Opera Prima
  10. Pierrot Lunaire - Gudrun

 
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Points: 934 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2006 at 21:28

I have all of them except "Cherry Five."  I love Italian prog, probably my favorite country of origin other than England.  There's some great new prog coming from Italy also.  Here's a few:

  1. La Maschera Di Cera
  2. Finisterre
  3. Chiave Di Volta
  4. The Watch
  5. Ubi Maior
  6. Deus Ex Machina
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My top 20 is

  1. Floret Silva
  2. Jacula/Tardo Pede In Magiam Versus
  3. Opus Avantra/Introspezione
  4. Latte E Miele/Passio Secundum Mattheum
  5. Pierrot Lunaire/Gudrun
  6. Il Balletto Di Bronzo/YS
  7. Il Volo/Essere O Non Essere ?
  8. Saint Just/La Casa Del Lago
  9. PFM/Photos Of Ghosts
  10. Osanna/Palepoli
  11. PFM/Live In USA
  12. PFM/Per Un Amico
  13. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso/Darwin !
  14. Riccardo Cocciante/Mu
  15. New Trolls/UT
  16. Mauro Pelosi/Al Mercato Degli Uomini Piccoli
  17. Canzoniere Del Lazio/Miradas
  18. Arti + Mestieri/Live
  19. Lucio Battisti/Anima Latina
  20. Eris Pluvia/Rings Of Earthly Light

Floret Silva was released in 1985 (1000 limited LP only). This has not been reissued on CD. Mauro Pelosi is a singer song writer. La Stagione Per Morire may be better known to proggers because Gianni Leone plays on it. Canzonirere Del Lazio is a jazz rock band. Lucio Battisti is probably known to proggers in this site. Anima Latina is close to Il Volo. Only Eris Pluvia's album is recorded after 1990.

next 10 is

21.I Pooh/Un Po'Del Nostro Tempo Migliore

22.PFM/Live In Japan 2002

23.Franco Battiato/Pollution

24.Malleus/Paranorm. Op I

25.Quasar Lux Symphoniae/Mit

26.Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso

27.Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso/Seguendo Le Tracce

28.Alan Sorrenti/Aria

29.Quella Vecchia Locanda/Il Tempo Della Gioia

30.Area/1978

 
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Points: 415 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2006 at 02:39
Banco are the greatest Italian group, so they should be on top, IMO. I'm not really a fan of PFM, nor Museo's Zarathustra.Also, Le Orme's best album is Contrappunti, which is missing.
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ANDREW's and honganji's post are brillant work.

I commend you guys for sharing your knowledge to
the rest of the world. we need your input and it is vital
to the history of Rock n Roll in the World.

thanks, and I mean it from Dallas, Texas USA!
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I think we are forgetting something? What about Area?
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Yesterday's reaction from my was on my work () in the late shift so today I took a brief look at my Italian progrock collection (at about 35 albums) and I have to say that I had expected a bit more appreciation for the 2-LP Searching For A Land from New Trolls (varied and great keyboards and guitars) and Voices Beyond The Curtain from Tale Cue (compelling with hints from Twelfth Night) but looking at all those delighted reactions Italian progrock is both a pleasant as a subjective experience, I am very glad that there is an increasing interest for the Italian progrock, grazi Andrea and Andrew, FORZA ITALIA!!
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Hello Erik,

Italian prog-world is full of wonderful surprises

Now I'm listening to "Io Sono Murple" (1974)...what a delicate and well structured concept album!

Yesterday I've put on my car's cd player Contrappunti: "La Fabbricante d'Angeli" and "Maggio" are beautiful songs, especially for the superb poetic lyrics!! (the first is about illegal abortion...).
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Points: 10616 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2006 at 08:48
Contrappunti is absolutely brilliant
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I would like to add 80 more Italian Prog albums in addition to the first lists above.

  1. 1975 - PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM) : CHOCOLATE KINGS
  2. 1974 - LE ORME : CONTRAPPUNTI
  3. 1972 - NEW TROLLS : SEARCHING FOR A LAND
  4. 1972 - NEW TROLLS : UT
  5. 1973 - NEW TROLLS ATOMIC SYSTEM : NEW TROLLS ATOMIC SYSTEM
  6. 1977 - PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM) : JET LAG
  7. 1973 - AREA : ARBEIT MACHT FREI
  8. 1972 - TRIP : ATLANTIDE
  9. 1974 - CHERRY FIVE : CHERRY FIVE
  10. 1974 - QUELLA VECCHIA LOCANDA : IL TEMPO DELLA GIOIA
  11. 1973 - RUSTICHELLI & BORDINI : OPERA PRIMA
  12. 1975 - ARTI + MESTIERI : GIRO DI VALZER PER DOMANI
  13. 1974 - ARTI + MESTIERI : TILT (IMMAGINI PER UN ORECCHIO)
  14. 1971 - OSANNA : L' UOMO
  15. 1972 - JUMBO : DNA
  16. 1976 - GOBLIN : ROLLER
  17. 1975 - MAXOPHONE : MAXOPHONE
  18. 1973 - CAMPO DI MARTE : CAMPO DI MARTE
  19. 1973 - IL ROVESCIO DELLA MEDAGLIA : CONTAMINAZIONE
  20. 1972 - GIGANTI : TERRA IN BOCCA
  21. 1972 - FRANCO BATTIATO : POLLUTION
  22. 1976 - CORTE DEI MIRACOLI : CORTE DEI MIRACOLI
  23. 1976 - PICCHIO DAL POZZO : PICCHIO DAL POZZO
  24. 1974 - MURPLE : IO SONO MURPLE
  25. 1973 - L' UOVO DI COLOMBO : L' UOVO DI COLOMBO
  26. 1973 - TRIADE : LA STORIA DI SABAZIO
  27. 1973 - ACQUA FRAGILE : MASS MEDIA STARS
  28. 1976 - CELESTE : PRINCIPE DI UN GIORNO
  29. 1972 - LATTE E MIELE : PASSIO SECUNDUM MATTHEUM
  30. 1972 - OSANNA : PRELUDIO TEMA VARIAZIONI CANZONA
  31. 1973 - LATTE E MIELE : PAPILLON
  32. 1973 - ALPHATAURUS : ALPHATAURUS
  33. 1974 - OSANNA : LANDSCAPE OF LIFE
  34. 1973 - NUOVA IDEA : CLOWNS
  35. 1974 - IL VOLO : ESSERE O NON ESSERE? ESSERE, ESSERE, ESSERE
  36. 1972 - NUOVA IDEA : Mr. E JONES
  37. 1973 - IBIS : CANTI D' INNOCENZA, CANTI D' ESPERIENZA
  38. 1973 - CERVELLO : MELOS
  39. 1975 - IBIS : IBIS
  40. 1972 - DIK DIK : SUITE PER UNA DONNA ASSOLUTAMENTE RELATIVA
  41. 1972 - LA FORMULA TRE : SOGNANDO E RISOGNANDO
  42. 1974 - ACQUA FRAGILE : ACQUA FRAGILE
  43. 1974 - TRIP : TIME OF CHANGE
  44. 1973 - SEMIRAMIS : DEDICATO A FRAZZ
  45. 1975 - APOTEOSI : APOTEOSI
  46. 1972 - ENEIDE : UOMINI UMILI POPOLI LIBERI
  47. 1975 - LIBRA : MUSICA E PAROLE
  48. 1973 - DE DE LIND : IO NON SO DA DOVE VENGO E NON SO MAI DOVE ANDRO', UOMO E' IL NOME CHE MI HANNO DATO
  49. 1974 - EDGAR ALLAN POE : GENERAZIONI
  50. 1972 - CAPSICUM RED : APPUNTI PER UN' IDEA FISSA
  51. 1976 - ERRATA CORRIGE : SIEGFRIED, IL DRAGO E ALTRE STORIE
  52. 1973 - FESTA MOBILE : DIARIO DI VIAGGIO DELLA FESTA MOBILE
  53. 1972 - GARYBALDI : NUDA
  54. 1972 - PIERROT LUNAIRE : PIERROT LUNAIRE
  55. 1973 - CALIFFI : FIORE DI METALLO
  56. 1976 - IL BARICENTRO : SCONCERTO
  57. 1973 - BLOCCO MENTALE : POA
  58. 1975 - ATLANTIDE : FRANCESCO TI RICORDI
  59. 1972 - ALAN SORENTI : ARIA
  60. 1973 - SAINT JUST : SAINT JUST
  61. 1972 - CAPITOLO 6 : FRUTTI PER KAGUA
  62. 1976 - NOVA : BLINK
  63. 1985 - L' ALTRO LATO : L' ALTRO LATO
  64. 1972 - IL PAESE DEI BALOCCHI : IL PAESE DEI BALOCCHI
  65. 1972 - ALLUMINOGENI : SCOLOPENDRA
  66. 1974 - ALUSA FALLAX : INTORNO ALLA MIA CATTIVA EDUCAZIONE
  67. 1973 - PHOLAS DACTYLUS : CONCERTO DELLE MENTI
  68. 1973 - PARADISO A BASSO PREZZO : PARADISO A BASSO PREZZO
  69. 1971 - DELIRIUM : DOLCE ACQUA
  70. 1975 - MO.DO : LA SCIMMIA SULLA SCHIENA DEL RE
  71. 1970 - GLEEMEN : GLEEMEN
  72. 1970 - IL MUCCHIO : IL MUCCHIO
  73. 1972 - OSAGE TRIBE : ARROW HEAD
  74. 1972 - RACCOMANDATA RICEVUTA RITORNO : PER...UN MONDO DI CRISTALLO
  75. 1974 - SAMADHI : SAMADHI
  76. 1981 - ABISSI INFINITI : TUNNEL
  77. 1974 - OPUS AVANTRA : INTROSPEZIONE
  78. 1972 - JET : FEDE, SPERANZA, CARITA'
  79. 1972 - GENCO PURO E CO. : AREA DI SERVIZIO
  80. 1973 - AKTUALA : AKTUALA
  81. 1969 - STORMY SIX : LE IDEE DI OGGI PER LA MUSICA DI DOMANI
  82. 1973 - RICORDI D' INFANZIA : IO UOMO
  83. 1973 - DALTON : RIFLESIONI: IDEA D' INFINITO
  84. 1974 - PROCESSION : FIABA
  85. 1971 - PANNA FREDDA : UNO
  86. 1972 - FLEA : TOPI O UOMINI
  87. 1977 - LA PENTOLA DI PAPIN : ZERO 7
  88. 1973 - ERA DI ACQUARIO : ANTOLOGIA
  89. 1976 - MANDILLO : MANDILLO
  90. 1971 - I LEONI : LA FORESTA
  91. 1973 - DEDALUS : DEDALUS
  92. 1973 - PERIGEO : ABBIAMO TUTTI UN BLUES DA PIANGERE
  93. 1976 - ESAGONO : VICOLO
  94. 1972 - EXPLOIT : CRISI
  95. 1973 - LA FAMIGLIA DEGLI ORTEGA : LA FAMIGLIA DEGLI ORTEGA
  96. 1977 - VENEGONI E CO. : RUMORE ROSSO
  97. 1974 - UNO : UNO
  98. 1978 - ZAUBER : ZAUBER
  99. 1972 - CIRCUS 2000 : AN ESCAPE FROM A BOX (FUGA DALL' INVOLUCRO)
  100. 1972 - I TEOREMI : I TEOREMI
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Points: 3064 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2006 at 09:36

Sorry....100 albums, not 80.
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It would be interesting if we could vote and construct a top 20 list (10 is very restricted, more than 20 is too large and out of focus) of great italian prog groups/albums, without more than a mention per group. I konw this is unfair with a lot of groups (PFM and Le Orme, for example) but this formula can help newbies and people used to the PFM-Banco-Le Orme formula to expand their knowledge. This isn't an original idea; I borrowed it from www.italianprog.com (by the way, an excelent site).

Before I start this list (or someone else - this is unimportant), I think you can discuss them. The second phase would be to construct a group list and put them on a poll, but we'd need more than a single poll. I think this can be an exhaustive but very constructive work to the italian prog afficionado and to the people who wish to know this wonderful vein of prog rock.
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