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    Posted: January 10 2006 at 16:28

I would like to know how people feel about Yes. More of an open discussion rather than have to focus on one single thing.

For example, How do people feel about their first two (In my opinion excellent) albums? or how do people feel about Topographic? What Yes albums do you consider "Masterpieces"? (And what do you think are crap for that matter)

I've never seen a thread that wasn't focused on something in particular, so I thought this would be a good idea. Thanks in advance for your thoughts, I'll read them all

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 16:36
Tried them over and over again, nothing much, I don't know what i don't like about them. Listened to the music and thought about , but i still don't know. Sorry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 16:48

Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Tried them over and over again, nothing much, I don't know what i don't like about them. Listened to the music and thought about , but i still don't know. Sorry

Hmmm, What have you heard by the band?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 16:51

i liek some yes...uh...what exactly do we talk about in here? all i can hear arae the inevitable "i think yes is cool!" -s and the "yes sucks"" -s responses...

what's the starting topic?

well for me

tell me why i don't like any yes other than CTTE, Relayer, Fragile, Yes album, and a little of 90215 (or whatever the numbers are).

and um...yes is cool

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 16:54
Wow not many people dig the Yes men. Or they're all in hiding
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:03
Well as a matter of fact I do lilke the Yes men. Their first two albums (to me anyway) were kind of like the tip of the iceberg. Just a tease as to what was coming. From The Yes Album thru Relayer I was hooked. The Roger Dean covers down to what we called the Yes changes, when they would totally change the whole structure of a song in midstream, captivated me. But then I lost interest and would be hard pressed to say much about their work after that. They are still a band I go to see (when they tour). And I would have to say they are in the top five of all prog bands in my book.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:04

I like the music- but its so very hard for me to like to vocals- Anderson (thats his name right?) sounds border-line womanish to me.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:08

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Wow not many people dig the Yes men. Or they're all in hiding

Or they have all seen too many Yes threads

Still, I like the topic. For me, any Yes album from the first album till Tormato (including that one) is more or less a masterpiece. Anderson's melodies are always strong, and there's always a lot happening musically. Yes, Time and A Word, The Yes Album, Relayer and Going For The One are highly energetic, and the time span from The Yes Album till Drama (including) Yes was a very innovating band.

I don't dislike or like Anderson's voice, it's okay with me, and I feel the same about the lyrics.

Although I'm a big Buggles fan, Drama doesn't work for me, except Tempus Fugit. I do think it's a very progressive record.

From the later stuff I only think 90125 and Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe are masterpieces: they are truly progressive and really "happening": highly energetic, good melodies, production and playing. I don't like the other albums, except some songs on Big Generator and Talk in particular, and the live tracks from Keys To Ascension. The Magnification tour was brilliant though.

About the playing: Yes always had very good or even brilliant instrumentalists. Only younger people like Billy Sherwood and Tom Brislin leave me indifferent.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:09
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I like the music- but its so very hard for me to like to vocals- Anderson (thats his name right?) sounds border-line womanish to me.

That's one of the reasons I like them. His voice almost sounds otherworldly. Like it belongs in the artwork found on the album cover. One of the reasons I like King Crimson's Lizard is for his guest vocal on Prince Rupert. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:11
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Tried them over and over again, nothing much, I don't know what i don't like about them. Listened to the music and thought about , but i still don't know. Sorry

Hmmm, What have you heard by the band?

Close to the edge, fragile, The yes album, enough to have a true opinion. I should like them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:13
Originally posted by validictorian validictorian wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I like the music- but its so very hard for me to like to vocals- Anderson (thats his name right?) sounds border-line womanish to me.

That's one of the reasons I like them. His voice almost sounds otherworldly. Like it belongs in the artwork found on the album cover. One of the reasons I like King Crimson's Lizard is for his guest vocal on Prince Rupert. 

I found andersons vocals to be an aquired taste. Now I also feel they are angelic and otherwordly. Same with the lyrics. They may be gibberish, but I think of them as imagery type songwriting.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:14

Originally posted by validictorian validictorian wrote:

Well as a matter of fact I do lilke the Yes men. Their first two albums (to me anyway) were kind of like the tip of the iceberg. Just a tease as to what was coming. From The Yes Album thru Relayer I was hooked. The Roger Dean covers down to what we called the Yes changes, when they would totally change the whole structure of a song in midstream, captivated me. But then I lost interest and would be hard pressed to say much about their work after that. They are still a band I go to see (when they tour). And I would have to say they are in the top five of all prog bands in my book.

Oh wow cool a Yes fan, I think the first two of their records are criminally under-rated. I love all the albums you mentioned, But only up to Relayer? What about Going for the one? Or Magnification?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:17
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Wow not many people dig the Yes men. Or they're all in hiding

Or they have all seen too many Yes threads

Still, I like the topic. For me, any Yes album from the first album till Tormato (including that one) is more or less a masterpiece. Anderson's melodies are always strong, and there's always a lot happening musically. Yes, Time and A Word, The Yes Album, Relayer and Going For The One are highly energetic, and the time span from The Yes Album till Drama (including) Yes was a very innovating band.

I don't dislike or like Anderson's voice, it's okay with me, and I feel the same about the lyrics.

Although I'm a big Buggles fan, Drama doesn't work for me, except Tempus Fugit. I do think it's a very progressive record.

From the later stuff I only think 90125 and Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe are masterpieces: they are truly progressive and really "happening": highly energetic, good melodies, production and playing. I don't like the other albums, except some songs on Big Generator and Talk in particular, and the live tracks from Keys To Ascension. The Magnification tour was brilliant though.

About the playing: Yes always had very good or even brilliant instrumentalists. Only younger people like Billy Sherwood and Tom Brislin leave me indifferent.

Well Andersons vocals are unique, they are so beautiful and him AND Squire were the vocal kings! But I like your love for their records, that's cool. I think there is a big backlash against Yes.... People don't like them, sometimes for no reason

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:19
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Originally posted by validictorian validictorian wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I like the music- but its so very hard for me to like to vocals- Anderson (thats his name right?) sounds border-line womanish to me.

That's one of the reasons I like them. His voice almost sounds otherworldly. Like it belongs in the artwork found on the album cover. One of the reasons I like King Crimson's Lizard is for his guest vocal on Prince Rupert. 

I found andersons vocals to be an aquired taste. Now I also feel they are angelic and otherwordly. Same with the lyrics. They may be gibberish, but I think of them as imagery type songwriting.

Well guys, you put it better than I ever could there with "Angelic!" he's a truly gifted person, when he doesn't push it

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:20
Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Tried them over and over again, nothing much, I don't know what i don't like about them. Listened to the music and thought about , but i still don't know. Sorry

Hmmm, What have you heard by the band?

Close to the edge, fragile, The yes album, enough to have a true opinion. I should like them.

Don't feel PRESSURED. Just relax and have a listen, that's what musics for..

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Well, I was introduced to Yes when I was around 12 and didn't particularly like their stuff at the time. However, since I was about 15, I played their albums a lot and really fell in love with the complexity. It's possible Yes are the most emotionally powerful of all prog bands; indeed, in my opinion they wrote the best, most consistently enjoyable epics in the whole genre that I've encountered so far. There is so much going on their music that every listen delivers something you never heard before, so much so that my favourite Yes album changes a hell of a lot. I've grown to love them so much over the past few months that they actually challenge Genesis for the slot of 'favourite prog band'; and I've loved Genesis since I was about 9!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:25
Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Tried them over and over again, nothing much, I don't know what i don't like about them. Listened to the music and thought about , but i still don't know. Sorry

Hmmm, What have you heard by the band?

Close to the edge, fragile, The yes album, enough to have a true opinion. I should like them.

Don't feel PRESSURED. Just relax and have a listen, that's what musics for..

I will give it another go. An album to start ? Be gently

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Actually I was playing their debut last week and was struck by how fresh and innovative it sounded; it's a lot more focussed and developed than Genesis' debut.

As for 'Topographic...', it's a true masterpiece to me now. I didn't like much from it bar 'Revealing Science Of God; but now I love every song equally. The tribal style climax to 'Ritual' is mindblowing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2006 at 17:28
Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Originally posted by Winter Wine Winter Wine wrote:

Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Tried them over and over again, nothing much, I don't know what i don't like about them. Listened to the music and thought about , but i still don't know. Sorry

Hmmm, What have you heard by the band?

Close to the edge, fragile, The yes album, enough to have a true opinion. I should like them.

Don't feel PRESSURED. Just relax and have a listen, that's what musics for..

I will give it another go. An album to start ? Be gently

Well you've heard three GREATS. But it might be easier to get into "Going for the one" another great album, It sounds like they are having so much fun! and the songs are all so strong. I hope ya like it

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Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Actually I was playing their debut last week and was struck by how fresh and innovative it sounded; it's a lot more focussed and developed than Genesis' debut.

As for 'Topographic...', it's a true masterpiece to me now. I didn't like much from it bar 'Revealing Science Of God; but now I love every song equally. The tribal style climax to 'Ritual' is mindblowing.

Well getting into it now ya might be a little excited with "Masterpiece!"  But I sort of felt the same a while back, I just liked The revealing science of God and then gave up. But now I like three of them a lot! The only one I don't like is "The Ancient", but it does pick up at the end. Also it's my favourite album cover from Yes

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