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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 05:27 |
Drachen Theaker wrote:
I don't like all that Vai/Malmsteen widdly-widdly shredding at all (perhaps it's my age!). |
They do not have much in common. Vai may have played some fast parts (even faster than Malmsteen), but they're way more imaginative.
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Xymphony
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 05:20 |
Is MAlmsteen really that fast? I must have some problem with my ears then  Or time may slow down everytime i listen to his stuff; he makes me feel out of this world, space and time; does he?
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W.Chuck
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 03:35 |
Tony MacAlpine-Quarter to Midnight (live solo)
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Drachen Theaker
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 03:33 |
I don't like all that Vai/Malmsteen widdly-widdly
shredding at all (perhaps it's my age!).
My favorite "fast" guitarist is Jan Akkerman. Love his
sound and the solos on Hocus Pocus (Moving
Waves version, not the US single) and towards the
end of Eruption just smoke the competition IMHO.
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marktheshark
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 00:25 |
Listen to Steve Morse picking on the cut "I'll Just Pick" on the Dregs album Unsung Heroes. It's not hard and ferocous, but it's cleanest and sweetest fast flat-picking I've ever heard.
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yesman72
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 23:02 |
Jeff Hanneman is wy better than King IMO
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Rising Force
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 22:59 |
lmfao! I was going to point out the same thing earlier, but I was like forget it.  I just disovered Al Di Meola's music last night. He's f**king amazing.
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King of Loss
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 22:56 |
SirPsycho388 wrote:
Steve Vai, John Petrucci, Michael Romeo, Paul Gilbert, Kerry King, Yngwie (though i think he gets sloppy)
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That was just hilarious. Saying Yngwie is sloppy when you have Kerry King there!  
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Mongo
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Posted: January 16 2006 at 22:46 |
Maybe not the fastest, but my favorite of the fast solos.
La Villa Strangiato - Alex Lifeson
I saw Holdsworth a couple of times, on the I.O.U. and Road Games tours both up close in small clubs and I don't think anyone can touch him in terms of quality at speed. Although JP is sure trying.
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"The options are ever fewer on the ground these days" Fish
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Marwin
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 15:30 |
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greenback
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 14:52 |
Biggles wrote:
Quite a few people listed DiMeola. He's got great technique, but he's never appealed too much to me as he's basically only ever learnt one lick. Although "Elegant Gypsy" and a few of the RtF albums are great.
The thing about Van Halen is that he uses a lot of tricks and shortcuts. I wouldn't put him in the same league as people like Holdsworth who have mindblowing technique without using too many tricks (Van Halen is a big Holdsworth fan, as a matter of fact). I don't think Van Halen could pull off JP's solos on Train of Thought. They have the fastest articulation I've ever heard from a guitarist. What I like about JP is that he's got taste and his own distinctive style, but he also listens and learns from great guitarists. The part at 9:06 in "Beyond This Life" is a Zappa reference, and 8:36 of "In the Name of God" is a wink to Holdsworth. There's quite a few moments during "Octavarium" that sound reminiscent of Steve Hackett, too.
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have you heard spanish fly?
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Biggles
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 12:48 |
Quite a few people listed DiMeola. He's got great technique, but he's never appealed too much to me as he's basically only ever learnt one lick. Although "Elegant Gypsy" and a few of the RtF albums are great.
The thing about Van Halen is that he uses a lot of tricks and shortcuts. I wouldn't put him in the same league as people like Holdsworth who have mindblowing technique without using too many tricks (Van Halen is a big Holdsworth fan, as a matter of fact). I don't think Van Halen could pull off JP's solos on Train of Thought. They have the fastest articulation I've ever heard from a guitarist. What I like about JP is that he's got taste and his own distinctive style, but he also listens and learns from great guitarists. The part at 9:06 in "Beyond This Life" is a Zappa reference, and 8:36 of "In the Name of God" is a wink to Holdsworth. There's quite a few moments during "Octavarium" that sound reminiscent of Steve Hackett, too.
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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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Charles
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 11:23 |
I can't believe no one here mentioned Al DiMeola...
It took many years before he would tone down his act, and learn to play softer and slower...
Charles
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Dick Heath
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 05:43 |
Poxx wrote:
[QUOTE=ldlanberg]
Guitar solo on Deep Purple's (studio) "Child in Time". 1970. Also my favorite guitar solo ever. Unusually fast playing, yet the solo is sufficiently long and satisfying. That solo by Ritchie Blackmore gets 6-stars on a five-star scale.
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Didn't it include a lift from the most copied English folksong by rock bands of the early 70's: The Keelroll(sp). Used by others including Wishbone Ash through to Status Quo.......and there is at least one American band who did used it.........
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Poxx
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 04:58 |
ldlanberg wrote:
Guitar solo on Deep Purple's (studio) "Child in Time". 1970. Also my favorite guitar solo ever. Unusually fast playing, yet the solo is sufficiently long and satisfying. That solo by Ritchie Blackmore gets 6-stars on a five-star scale.
Also, notice how the guitar solo on "Dancing With the Moonlit Knight" - Genesis and three year later - sounds like an abbreviated spin-off of it.
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Yeah, same way as Genesis totally ripped off Purple's 'Smoke on the water', when they made 'One for the Vine'.
Practise listening, for you own sake.
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Manunkind
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 04:22 |
Flip_Stone wrote:
Should we really care who has the fastest guitar solo?!?!? Speed doesn't equal quality. I could pick up my guitar and play some crap at lightning speed. It might be fast as hell, but it's still crap.
Thankfully prog. music isn't about speed and flash and glitz. Speedy solos are for metalheads
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(sigh)
... and for flamenco players, gypsy musicians, jazz musicians, fusion musicians, classical musicians, bluegrass musicians, Irish folk musicians, many other folk musicians etc. etc. etc. Basically for musicians many prog musicians are inspired by.
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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dolina vila
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 03:45 |
I,m gonna give you several songs:
Beggars Opera, " Act One" is the fastiest song ever played, guitar followed with pipe organ, year 70 th,
Slayer," The final Command", with two guitars,
Destiny,s End, "Rebirth" , Italian Band, fantastic burning,
Megadeth, "Dread and the fugitive mind" , one of most exiting song.
Unfortunately you hid your E-mail, that I can not send to you any of this songs, but I will send the first one (Beggars Opera) to prog.Arch. in MP3 format, right now.
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BiGi
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 03:02 |
About speed, Yngwie Malmsteen is amazing but, even though I like many of his songs, his solos definitely sound ALWAYS THE SAME!!!
Coming to slightly slower but surely more inventive ones, we have John Petrucci's solos (for what concerns distorted and overdriven guitar playing) and some of Mike Oldfield's works (as regards "clean guitar" playing).
About the latter, I'm referring in particular to Taurus III (from Crises) and The Sailor's Hornpipe at the end of Tubular Bells.
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A flower?
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greenback
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 02:47 |
i like this speed thread!
well, malmsteen is extremely fast that's sure!
we must not forget too paco de lucia: he is extremely fast on the flamenco friday night album.
as dick heath mentioned, electrocution 250 is extreme too.
one of van halen's fastest solo is definitely on Fools and Eruption!
i invite you to listen to the solo on the farewell to kings track (rush): it is quite fast too!
an honourable mention are the solos on spastik ink's ink complete: quite comparable to malmsteen!
vinnie moore can be really fast too!
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RUM26
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Posted: January 10 2006 at 00:18 |
Flip_Stone wrote:
Should we really care who has the fastest guitar solo?!?!? Speed doesn't equal quality. I could pick up my guitar and play some crap at lightning speed. It might be fast as hell, but it's still crap.
Thankfully prog. music isn't about speed and flash and glitz. Speedy solos are for metalheads
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I couldn't agree more!! but i do no some fast ones that are good, but there not lighting speed fast, otherwise it can't be good.
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