REMOVE RATING-ONLY-REVIEWS?

Easy Livin wrote: Reducing or eliminating the impact on RwR on the chart, recommended albums etc.

I agree with reducing the impact of ratings without review.

I think many people who come from non-english speaking countries are too shy in using english. And a lot of these people seem to write better english than some americans. I think it doesn't matter that much if there are some grammar errors. If you understand the main reasons why someone likes/doesn't like an album, it's OK.

I think it would also be OK, if reviews usings different language than english would be accepted. But that would also mean that there has to be moderators who can understand that language.

Maybe we could also force people to select a country ... if someone from Brazil writes a review in broken english, I'm sure that nobody would mind the errors.

Ray Lomas wrote: I think many people who come from non-english speaking countries are too shy in using english.

Why should people be shy? Nobody can see their e-mail adress and there's just a name, and the name is free-to-chose (of course nothing racist, etc.). So you can chose a NICKNAME you like and nobody will know who you are!

Ray Lomas wrote: And a lot of these people seem to write better english than some americans. I think it doesn't matter that much if there are some grammar errors. If you understand the main reasons why someone likes/doesn't like an album, it's OK.

Yes, so far you can still understand it, grammatic faults are not worse!

The problem is that a rating cannot be argued about. As long as the reviewer shows that he/she has really listened to the album and the review contains some information about the album, the rating is valid ... no matter what some of us may think about it. Even if it is obviously an attempt at manipulation - like for example somewone who rates CttE 1 star, and SEbtP 5 stars.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: I think that these ratings should be allowed, but not be used in the calculation of the average rating. This would also mean that the old ratings would not have to be removed.

Best idea yet!

Ricochet wrote: goose wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: I think that these ratings should be allowed, but not be used in the calculation of the average rating. This would also mean that the old ratings would not have to be removed. Best idea yet! actually,that's an idea everyone eventually gets to...

That only shows that it might make sense. BTW: It's not my idea ... someone else suggested it and I picked it up.

There are some persons who dont think what points do they give.

Some put 1 ,other 5

5 means masterpeace -you cant put thoughtlessly 5 to albums.

I put also only points,but I didnt write review.My english is not that good to describe my feelings about albums.

Some jerks think that  pointgiving is NUMBER GAME

They put 5,51,,5,5 ,4,1, and again 5,5,5 etc. Look Rick Wakemans page for example. 

 

W.Chuck wrote: What's the admins opinion about NOT COUNTING them?

Collectively, Tony, Trotsky and myself agree the issue needs to be addressed.

Personally, I think we have more chance of persuading M@X to reduce their impact, rather than excluding them all together.

Let's check some of the top albums:

• Close to the Edge: I believe it's a 5 stars album:
  • Most Reviewers rated it with 4 or 5 stars
  • Nine reviewers rated it with 3 stars
  • One 2 star review (Another guy who complains that the songs are too long )
  • One 1 star review by an idiot who says Jon sounds like a woman
  • Ratings without Reviews: Eleven RWR gave Close to the Edge 1 star.
• Selling England by the Pound: Not my favorite Genesis album but can't give it less than 4 stars but...
  • The review ratings are 4 or  5 stars (Most 5 stars)
  • Three that rate it with 3 stars because they believe it's overrated
  • One reviewer gives 2 stars but he's obviously  a troll who doesn't know what he's talking about because he doesn't even know the name of the songs
  • RwR (Nine RWR give 1 star??????)
• Thick as a Brick: No review under 3 stars (Tonly 2 reviewrs gave it 3 stars)
  • RWR: Four 2 stars and four 1 star????
• Dark Side of the Moon: Eleven 3 stars, one 2 stars and one 1 star  are the lowes reviers gave (The last one is a Floyd hater).
  • RWR: Nine RWR gave 1 star???? and a whole bunch of 2 stars.

It's clear, Ratings without reviews go against the normal average of an album, and exceed by far the low ratings given by reviewers.

Iván

 

Edited by ivan_2068

ivan_2068 wrote: Let's check some of the top albums: Close to the Edge: I believe it's a 5 stars album: Most Reviewers rated it with 4 or 5 stars Nine reviewers rated it with 3 stars One 2 star review (Another guy who complains that the songs are too long ) One 1 star review by an idiot who says Jon sounds like a woman Ratings without Reviews: Eleven RWR gave Close to the Edge 1 star. Selling England by the Pound: Not my favorite Genesis album but can't give it less than 4 stars but... The review ratings are 4 or  5 stars (Most 5 stars) Three that rate it with 3 stars because they believe it's overrated One reviewer gives 2 stars but he's obviously  a troll who doesn't know what he's talking about because he doesn't even know the name of the songs RwR (Nine RWR give 1 star??????) Thick as a Brick: No review under 3 stars (Tonly 2 reviewrs gave it 3 stars) RWR: Four 2 stars and four 1 star???? Dark Side of the Moon: Eleven 3 stars, one 2 stars and one 1 star  are the lowes reviers gave (The last one is a Floyd hater). RWR: Nine RWR gave 1 star???? and a whole bunch of 2 stars. It's clear, Ratings without reviews go against the normal average of an album, and exceed by far the low ratings given by reviewers. Iván

Dear Ivan,

please note the 1 star review of greenback for a 5 star album (Devin Townsend - Terria). Who are you to judge whether a 1 star rating is valid or not?