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W.Chuck ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 27 2005 Status: Offline Points: 606 |
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PLEASE VOTE I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE SITE AND ITS AUTHENTICITY!
Should reviews with NO TEXT and ONLY a RATING be removed or at least not counted? |
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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Yes. |
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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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Yes they should be removed and chuck, Ya got there before me with the idea! Ya git
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horza ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 31 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2530 |
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Ahh - but remember, not everyone feels confident enough to post a review but would like to register their approval/disapproval - also, some people do not have english as their first language and might feel inhibited - should THEIR opinions not count?
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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A good point but shouldn't that be explained to the admins? |
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W.Chuck ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 27 2005 Status: Offline Points: 606 |
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at least they could write in their language!
I've found so many reviews with another language and furthermore I think it is very brazen to chose an english nickname and write nothing ![]() |
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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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Also a good point |
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Moatilliatta ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: December 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3083 |
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I vote yes. |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20438 |
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This is an ongoing discussion for months , with most admin admitting there is a prpbblem but M@X and Proglucky (the owners are not agreeeing with them). I personally voted not caring about a useless issue. The reviews are important to fid new bands. the ratings mean nothing and are abused by almost everyone. and those top list |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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cucacola54 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 11 2005 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 1729 |
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Thats a good point, its a little hard for us non-english speakers to make a review.... it can be easier if we can make a review with our main language... anyway i voted no, but if we can review with our own lenguage i vote yes |
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W.Chuck ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 27 2005 Status: Offline Points: 606 |
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Well yes REVIEWS-WITH TEXT, so that you can inform about a band and if you are looking for a new band everyone looks at the rating, which is either tempting or deterrent! |
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Atkingani ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
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My proposition is based on STEPS.
I believe it can work smoothly!
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Guigo
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W.Chuck ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 27 2005 Status: Offline Points: 606 |
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Hmm, I think this could be subsumed to one step, I don't see a great difference in the effect.
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Winter Wine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 12 2005 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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Not a bad idea at all, but the way I see it two problems are still left
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Rosescar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2005 Status: Offline Points: 715 |
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At the very least, you can't rate an album 1 or 5 without a review.
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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I have repeated below, my post from one of the many other threads on this topic. I would say here though that it would have been better if the poll had had a few more options. The site owners have made it clear they will not delete the 15,000+ ratings without reviews which have already been posted. It would therefore be more appropriate to offer options which work within that such as:
Previous post: Just to explain once again why ratings without reviews are allowed. The view is that some people either do not speak English sufficiently well to write a coherent review in English (per the site rules). Others find it very difficult to put into words what they feel about an album, and do not wish to look foolish or as they see it tarnish the site with a poor review. The owners of the site(*) are committed to allowing as many people as possible to actively participate in the site, even if it is just by recording their rating for the albums which are listed here. There are over 15,000 ratings without reviews. The site owners feel that to remove these, or simply ignore them would be unfair to those who have taken the trouble to record their views. The vast majority of these ratings reflect the submitter's sincere views of the album being rated. The site owners are however aware of the controversy surrounding ratings without reviews, and are looking at how best to address this. This will take a little time, there are more important things to be dealt with, and everything must take its turn. Rest assured, a solution will be found, but please be patient. Speaking personally, I have said many times that I do not like ratings without reviews. I feel that if they are to be included, their impact on features such as the chart and the average ratings should be reduced (say 50% of a rating supported by a review), or removed with the rating appearing for information only on the album page. (* For those who do not know, the owners of the site are M@X and Proglucky. I am not speaking on their behalf here, simply conveying their thoughts as I understand them)
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TheProgtologist ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
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I don't think old ratings without reviews should be deleted,but ratings without reviews ought to be stopped right now.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21632 |
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I think that these ratings should be allowed, but not be used in the calculation of the average rating. This would also mean that the old ratings would not have to be removed.
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W.Chuck ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 27 2005 Status: Offline Points: 606 |
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Ok, let's say the option "YES" means that those ratings are prohibited in the future!
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viperjr98 ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 14 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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I never look at ratings without reviews. I don't pay attention to the top 100 rankings. All I care about is reading well thought out and comprehensive reviews of albums that I might take an interest in. Then, if there are soundclips, I listen to the soundclips. If I like them, I just might go out and buy the album. That's it. That's all that matters. Everything else is mere puffery. Therefore, I voted that I don't care.
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