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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
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Ive just listened to Meshuggah's "Catch 33" and Coheed's "Secrets" back-to-back.I'm not suggesting they are similar but I couldnt detect any more Prog-merit in Meshuggah compared to C&C to be honest. They are, in my opinion, prog-related and therefore whilst not a Prog Rock band they do merit inclusion.... |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21596 |
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They're not reinventing prog ... but they do incorporate an EMO vibe into the music, which makes them somewhat unique as a band with 1 1/2 feet in the progressive territory (so to speak).
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Tristan Mulders ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
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GoldenSpiral ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
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there's nothing experimental about them... theyre not doing anything new. art rock fits i suppose. |
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Mnemosyne ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 26 2005 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 272 |
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Art Rock fits them better
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I'm a Man-Owl-Fish.
Creator-Observer-Muse. |
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Tristan Mulders ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
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^ they have to much in common with prog to be dismissed to the 'catch-all' genre Prog-Related. I'd say the description of Art Rock fits them nice!
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Mikeypoo ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: November 21 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 75 |
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i was more of the opinion that thery should be under "prog-metal", though it definatly doesnt fit them to a Tee. At least from the songs i heard, (and very much enjoyed by the way). Maybe "prog-related" would be better. actually i believe that would be a very good sub genre for them. And i have to add... a friend of mine purchased "In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3" and i absolutly love a few of their songs. i think prog-archives should defiatly add them to the site. now i've said my piece, thanks... mikey out |
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Moatilliatta ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: December 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3083 |
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^agreed.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21596 |
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Art Rock, hands down.
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Tristan Mulders ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
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As a short note... under what subgenre of the progarchives database would you like to see them included? Please look at the genre descriptions when deciding. I agree that they should be included though no matter what! |
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Rashikal ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 07 2005 Status: Offline Points: 546 |
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from the above site, download welcome home or the crowing
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krusty ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 27 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1777 |
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There are a few MP3 samples here for those interested
http://music.download.com/coheedandcambria/3600-8709_32-1001 30220.html MikeEnRegalia :- You might want to add the above to your MP3 sample database site. |
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Rashikal ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 07 2005 Status: Offline Points: 546 |
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they are definitely prog. "A favor house atlantic" and "blood red
summer" do them no justice (although i do enjoy the catchiness)
moatilata was right in that the story and mood of the songs go along
together.
even if they arent listed as prog on this site, theyre definitely a great band that is unfortunately being bundled up with pop bands like falloutboy and howthorne hieghts while they should be over there with the mars volta. and system of a down should stop touring with mars volta. |
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Tristan Mulders ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
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I have listened to two of their albums the last couple of days and I sure vote in favour of their addition to the site!
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Tristan Mulders ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
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'though I do not know their music, as someone has said to me in the past... we (= ProgArchives) would be relatively stupid not to include bands that are generally regarded as prog rock/metal bands. Maybe the problem is that no-one has taken the time to write a biography for them? Or are they totally rejected? |
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Moatilliatta ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: December 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3083 |
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They do not. You must have falsely assumed that by only listening to their singles and such. |
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Drew ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2005 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 12600 |
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Agree- would NOT like to see them on this site. They sound like 100 others poppy high school bands |
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Moatilliatta ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: December 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3083 |
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The Second Stage Turbine Blade may not sound as "proggy," but I think it's just as good as the other work. |
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TheOracleIV ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: November 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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About "taking themselves seriously" Claudio actually said Coheed and Cambria started off as kind of a joke after their first band "Shabutie" fell through. Which is probably why their first album Second Stage Turbine Blade doesn't sound very "proggy", but after that became so popular it seems they've changed their style to make it a lot more progressive with In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3. I think they should be added to the archives, I've listened to bands on here that were a lot less progressive then they were. |
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StyLaZyn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
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I mentioned in another forum that I think C&C belong in the Prog realm. I think they are pushing limits by today's Modern Rock standards towards Prog Rock. I certainly hear enough elements that show they are very creative in this genre. If Radiohead can be considered Prog and C&C not, I fail to see the reasoning. Both bands produce Modern Rock that is outside the boundaries of this genre. Do these bands create a new genre of Progressive Modern Rock? |
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