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Finished Marquez

Started Franz Kafka "Amerika"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Garten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2006 at 07:23
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:


Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I have just started Black House,the sequel to one of the greatest quest books ever,The Talisman,by Stephen King and Peter Straub


 


I enjoyed Black House, although it didn't seem to reach the same level of brilliance as The Talisman, IMO.  


 


I just started reading Ilium by Dan Simmons. Somewhat of a slow start so far...



I really don't expect it to be as brilliant as The Talisman.If it is half as good I will be happy.This book has been around for awhile and I never got to read it because I had so much other stuff to read.My wife read it and says it is pretty good.



No doubt about it, the sequel doesn't measure up to The Talisman... it is however a superb book & a worthy sequel.

Personally, having read Robin Hobb's 'Liveship' trilogy & thoroughly enjoyed the writing style, I've just began the 'Farseer' trilogy - so far, so good....

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That reminds me, I have to finish Franz Kafka's "The Trial".  Well, he never finished it, but you know what I mean!

I also have to finish Charles Dickens "Martin Chuzzlewit" too.  I'm slacking!
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Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

That reminds me, I have to finish Franz Kafka's "The Trial".  Well, he never finished it, but you know what I mean!



He never finished chapter 8,called "Block.K renounces to the lawyer's services...but "The Trial" has an end...

"Amerika" is the unfinished novel of his...

anyways,get on and finish it...
 
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Ah thanks Ricochet.  The Metamophosis is outstanding and one of my favourites.

The other one I want to read of his is: In the Penal Colony

Apparently that one is quite dark.

Can you recommend anything else by him?
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Sure...get the Journal,the letters towards Felice,if you can...and some other short stories...do you have The Verdict?...and of course,don't forget the Castle...do you have it?...
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Not yet no, but I thought The Castle was unfinished as well?  Not that I am complaining about unfinished works, it's just I like completeness.

So, out of the following, which do you rate as the best?

Description of a Struggle (Beschreibung eines Kampfes)
Meditation (Betrachtung)
The Judgment aka The Verdict (Das Urteil)
The Metamorphosis (Die Verwandlung)
In the Penal Colony (In der Strafkolonie)
A Country Doctor (Ein Landartz
A Hunger Artist (Ein Hungerkünstler)
The Trial (Der Prozess)
The Castle (Das Schloss)
Amerika
The Great Wall of China (Beim Bau der chinesischen Mauer)

As well as short stories:

The Neighbour
A Report to an Academy
Before The Law (later incorporated in The Trial)
The Hunter Gracchus
Up in the Gallery
An Imperial Message
Jackals and Arabs
My Destination
Unhappiness

I'm sure there are some I've missed out.

I've only read The Metamorphosis and half of The Trial, but I have translations of In the Penal Colony, A Hunger Artist, A Country Doctor, The Great Wall of China and some of his short stories.  I unfortunately don't have The Castle, The Judgment or Amerika.


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Description of a Struggle (Beschreibung eines Kampfes) 9/10
Meditation (Betrachtung) didn't read
The Judgment aka The Verdict (Das Urteil) 10/10
The Metamorphosis (Die Verwandlung) 4000/10
In the Penal Colony (In der Strafkolonie)8/10
A Country Doctor (Ein Landartz) 7/10
A Hunger Artist (Ein Hungerkünstler) 10/10
The Trial (Der Prozess) 5000/10
The Castle (Das Schloss) 4000/10
Amerika Reading it just now,only first chapter read
The Great Wall of China (Beim Bau der chinesischen Mauer) don't remember this

As well as short stories:

Before The Law (later incorporated in The Trial) 20/10 (superb)

the others I may have read,but don't remember them by names...


The Castle is finished as well...Kafka died not finishing Amerika that's for sure...

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I'm still a Kafka Neophyte... I've only read The Metamorphosis () and I'm reading "The Trial" (Which in Spanish is translated as "The Process")

I need more Kafka...

Also reading:

Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert
The Mother - Maximo Gorki
The Fall of the House of Usher - Edgar Allan Poe

I love latin/mexican literature, so I'm always reading something from Agusto Monterroso or Mario Benedetti

I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dreamer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2006 at 11:56
Samuel Beckett - Waiting for Goddot: one of the strangest and most confusing books I've read, but still gives you plenty to think about in a rather twisted way.
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Try out Peter Hammill's Prog Rock Opera - "The Fall Of The House Of Usher".  I've yet to hear it, but I plan too.  I actually started to read Edgar Allan Poe's original story once and stopped, not because I wasn't enjoying it, I just got sidetracked and forgot to finish it, so that's another on my list to add.

If you like horror based stuff, try: Edgar Bulwer-Lytton's "The Haunters and The Haunted".  Be careful though, there a two different books based on the same story, one an extended version.  Bulwer-Lytton just expanded on it.


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Originally posted by R.Darkmoon R.Darkmoon wrote:

I'm still a Kafka Neophyte... I've only read The Metamorphosis () and I'm reading "The Trial" (Which in Spanish is translated as "The Process")

I need more Kafka...





that's okay,darkmoon,you've still got some heavy reading to do...I,who will almost finish Kafka integrally after reading AmeriKa,will  be feeling like my life is over...
 
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First book by bukowski ive read. I have heard recently that theres a movie, true?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BitchBrew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2006 at 12:46
To have and have not by ernest hemingway. First book ive read by him. It was okey I guess. I did read an swedish translation.

What will I read now?
ooo there are thousends of good books out there ile probably find one.
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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

That reminds me, I have to finish Franz Kafka's "The Trial".  Well, he never finished it, but you know what I mean!



He never finished chapter 8,called "Block.K renounces to the lawyer's services...but "The Trial" has an end...

"Amerika" is the unfinished novel of his...

anyways,get on and finish it...
 


Is The Castle finished? If it is, it doesn't really have an end.
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not a proper end,agreed,but still finished...
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of course my last one:
"The Dead Sea" by Zorze Amado
...live for tomorrow...
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Currently reading a compilation of short stories by Varlam Salamov.They are not for the faint hearted reader, you may find them under the title Stories from Kolima or something similar.

According to Salamov art has no right to didactics and preaching after the horrors of the 20th century. His short stories are really short and  they have an incredible artisic and moral power and really free of all didactics and political statements.

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It's about the "Goulag", isn't it?

I think i've read it.
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Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

Currently reading a compilation of short stories by Varlam Salamov.They are not for the faint hearted reader, you may find them under the title Stories from Kolima or something similar.

According to Salamov art has no right to didactics and preaching after the horrors of the 20th century. His short stories are really short and  they have an incredible artisic and moral power and really free of all didactics and political statements.

Ha, what a coincidence: as I'm editing a reference book about short stories, I pick them up from library shelves - some I read (more for my own pleasure, the book project doesn't demand reading 'em all), some I just leaf to make a one-line introduction. Today I picked four books, one of them the Salamov you spoke about! But as the back cover says "Salamov was in Stalin's camps for years. He wrote his experiences into short stories in which he described the hopeless life and experiences of his co-prisoners" I thought I don't want to read them, but maybe I do since you recommend.

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