Broadsword 1 album v B’dsword 2 Dbl album

What do you think of the early Tull tracks Aeroplane and Sunshine Day? They are both on my This Was 90 mns cd-r

here's the extra tracks I've added to my "personal" This Was cd-r:

• Aeroplane
• Sunshine Day
• Stormy Monday Blues
• One for John Gee
• Love Story
• Christmas Song
• To Be Sad Is A Mad Way to Be (from the Song For Jeffrey bootleg, mispelled "To Be Sad as a Man Will Be")
• Dharma for One - the 1970 live-revisited version findable also in Living in the Past compilation
• Christmas Song - 1989 revisited, taken from the Living With the Past live album
• My Sunday Feeling - live 2001
• Some Day the Sun Won't Shine for You - class '68  reunion

I miss blues for the 19th...

Broadsword 1 has some strong songs and some disappointing songs, but the album was just decent. Broadsword 2 has more strong songs and a few average songs. But Broadsword 2 is the winner. I might make a compilation of the best songs. It will sound like a great album. Alot of the bonus songs are heavier. A couple of prog tunes in there. Tull were a super band in 82. I just counted 26 songs. Some high quality songs in there. This would have been a better double album than the Wall and you can still throw out the 6 worst songs and have 20 good songs. Jackalynn 2 is alot better than jackalynn 1. I'm your gun is a heavy prog goodie

Again I will be posting controversially

But with Heavy Horses their last great album, and with the very much less inspired Stormwatch (79) Tull closed an era!!!! This record was such a deception that I believe that it was no incident that Barlow, Glascock, Evans and Palmer were gone after it!!! Three of the four were already there since Aqualung, so obviously they got fired (too big a coincidence four members quitting at the same time)

The next era is one of confusion and will start most of the 80's until there was a return to form (and a more stable line-up) with Crest Of A Knave (87)

By the time A (80) is recorded (and I do not care if Jobson is a full time member or not) this album is rather awful and the confusion sytarted with Stormwatch is in full swing. Check out the Slipstream DVD or the Video tracks after the A remastered album. This is listless and Anderson is even making fun of him with this stupid Concept Album words flashing behind him!!! He does not know what to do to survive and is clearly trying out everything possible and it shows!!!

TULL WAS CLEARLY IN A TRANSITIONAL PHASE AND WAS TRYING OUT ALL KINDS OF STUFF , BEING MOSTLY LISTLESS AT IT!

TB&TB (82) is much better song-wise, but not musical-wise: Vettese is mostly responsible for those crappy synths sounds of the excrutiatingly bad Under Wraps (84) with ugly beat-boxes - check also Anderson's first solo album Walk OUT Of The Light , I saw them live for that tour at Toronto's Maple Leaf Gardens and they stunk (maybe the worst concert I have seen and certainly worse than ELP at Montreal's Olympic Stadium) and I believe Dave Mattacks was the drummer(ex-Fairport was playing drums)

 

From early 84 until mid 87, three years of silence and doubt, and COAK comes out

I think gentletull needs to get a life , Tull were nothing after thick as a brick 

Andrea Cortese wrote: Always liked Tull's period 1979-1984. To be honest I like less albums as Crest of a Knave and Catfish Risin', some great tracks apart (Budapest and Rocks on the Road, for instance).>>> BluesRock>> I understand it is not really prog In Storwatch there are the best longer tracks of the folk-trilogy 1977-1979: Dark Ages and Flying Dutchman.>>> two tracks and the rest..... A, in my opinion, is just superb with its great "Black Sunday" and darker feel in the mood of the previous album.>>> I'll give you Black Sunday, but after........ Under Wraps is the most varied, funny, quasi-humoresque album from Tull. The only thing bad is when Ian tries to play drums... >>> Are you sure you are serously talking here I own Walk Into Light too and I like it moderately. I have listened some weeks ago on discovery channel to Fly by Night played live (I don't know what was the show, because the song was the soundtrack of a tv program regarding mount climbing)...I was so shocked because it was incredibly better than the studio one!!! Broadsword is a classic, but more conventional one, because Anderson and Barre seem to return to the gone years but the result is not always convincing. The album is wonderful, btw! Tull never made bad albums>> Objectively (this means in retrospect of their whole career and judging albums against each other both inside Tull discography and the full Prog Archives database and leaving out the fanboy sublectivity) TB&TB is with Storwatch the two albums that can just reach the three stars , if you are in a leniant mood at the moment of rating

Just two questions, Andrea

Have you ever bought an album you did not like (I mean this happens loads of time with me) ???

and do you actually think every album you own is above average??? (I regularly clean out mine from all the "crap" so I can be happy with mine - my collection will not suffer average albums and therefore will not have any albums ranging from after HH until RTBranches)

Peace

Hey Sean, you seem to like more straight forward music which is less imaginative, that's why you rate Crest higher than A lol. Are you even a prog fan? ;) Go out and buy the Stormwatch remaster and listen to it properly. It has 4 very good bonus tracks. That remaster is just as strong as the Heavy horses remaster. The best 10 songs from the heavy horses session make a brilliant 9.5/10 album. But I include Beltane, Blues instrumental and A stitch in time as Heavy horses bonus songs. Only a moron would say that Tull have not been good after Heavy horses ;)

the fact that he is knocking "A" makes me laugh :)

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Personally, my favorite song to come from the Broadsword session (that I've heard at least, I've only heard the original vinyl and CD remaster) is Jack Frost and the Hooded Crow. The 80's sounding drums and keyboards really add to it (compare to the extremely inferior Christmas Album version).

gentletull wrote: Hey Sean, you seem to like more straight forward music >>> now that is a laugh, I hate anything remotetedly close to a normal song structure verse-chorus-verse-chorus-twenty second solos-verse-chorus-fade-out and from the majority of the tracks from these Tull albums we are discussing , this is the case  which is less imaginative, that's why you rate Crest higher than A>> true that in my rating in the database I was a little harsh on A , I'll fix it to 2.5 stars lol. Are you even a prog fan? ;) >>> I wrote over 1500 reviews on this site out of boredom and because I hate progGo out and buy the Stormwatch remaster and listen to it properly. It has 4 very good bonus tracks. That remaster is just as strong as the Heavy horses remaster.>>> I'll give you that point!!! I have not heard the remaster (that part will not do a big difference) nor have I heard those bonus tracks The best 10 songs from the heavy horses session make a brilliant 9.5/10 album. But I include Beltane, Blues instrumental and A stitch in time as Heavy horses bonus songs. Only a moron would say that Tull have not been good after Heavy horses ;) Coming from you , this might just be a compliment

 

 

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Broadsword is a classic, but more conventional one, because Anderson and Barre seem to return to the gone years but the result is not always convincing. The album is wonderful, btw! Tull never made bad albums>> Objectively (this means in retrospect of their whole career and judging albums against each other both inside Tull discography and the full Prog Archives database and leaving out the fanboy sublectivity) TB&TB is with Storwatch the two albums that can just reach the three stars , if you are in a leniant mood at the moment of rating
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GT,

do you even have an idea of what I am talking about in this response to Andrea?

Do you even understand what a masterpiece is?

A MASTERPIECE (coming from Meisterwerk) is the top work of an artiste, it is also rare and far in between (5% of the albums in the database MAXIMUM)

Them masterpieces must be judged not only to their own values , but also compared to all Tull albums

The original Stormwatch album was their 12th or 13th album and only Too Old To RnR was worse than Stromwatch - I think that even you can admit to that and therefore that means that all previous album have a better shot at being a masterpiece than this one.

The Tull masterpieces have to be compared to to all other prog rock albums present in the database, can you simply REALLY and HONESTLY tell me that Stormwatch is even in the top 20% of the albums in the database ??????

If you cannot agree with this simple reasonning , you are a fanboy and have no idea of a what a masterpiece is. Tastes and colours aside

Peace!!

I mean it too