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Publius 
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 Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:54 |
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What a topical thread! I'm just arguing with my girlfriend about prog and music in general, because she said she liked that stupid new "JCB song". She can't seem to understand that progressive rock is the key to human evolution and that we are better than everyone else.
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I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:56 |
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In musical terms, God I hope so!!!!!
Not in any other way. I don't look down on the peasants around me at all. I respect them greatly as my inferiors.
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Publius
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:59 |
 likewise! 
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I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8
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BitchBrew
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Location: Sweden
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Posted: December 20 2005 at 18:03 |
No I wouldnt say i am. I do listen to some artists that are cuite
popular an considered "pop". I really dont care much for cloaths and
material objects, and i have respect for most sub-cultures and musical
genres.
^^  Yea okey, im a snob
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The Mars Volta, Mike Patton, Frank Zappa, Pink Floyd, Liquid Tension Experiment
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darren
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Posted: December 21 2005 at 13:08 |
I don't think prog has any more snobs than any other genre of music. I have a friend who is really into country music and country fans can be snobs. We went to a country bar and talked to a few people. Any country song made before 1979 is a classic. Period. No discussion. Anything popular is not cool. There were more rules but they were so arbitrary that I couldn't keep up.
It's very much like some on this board can be; either you like x, y and z or you are not truly into prog and any song released that may have become popular means the band isn't really prog... etc. etc. etc.
I know there are some into punk that have their own set of exclusionary rules as to if you are truly punk or not.
I know that hip hop is fairly rigid, either you have "street cred" or you're a poser.
Yes, we are snobs but it's just like any other genre of music... except our music doesn't suck.
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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen
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Rockin' Chair
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Location: Italy
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Posted: December 21 2005 at 13:33 |
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Yes, but only if we talk about music.
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sebtp
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Joined: December 21 2005
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Posted: December 21 2005 at 17:10 |
As a newcomer to the scene I haven't really found anyone's personality to be any form of barrier. However musically I feel that the genre as a whole looks down on all the others... For example the complex time signatures, relentless solos and mysterious artwork!! All of these seek to elevate prog's status as a musical form. But I believe the genre is all the better for it 
Mike
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tardis
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Posted: December 21 2005 at 17:26 |
I'm usually not snobbish, but when it comes to progressive rock, I tend to think that anyone who doesn't enjoy it is inferior.
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RoyalJelly
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Posted: December 21 2005 at 17:26 |
 darren wrote:
I don't think prog has any more
snobs than any other genre of music. I have a friend
who is really into country music and country fans can
be snobs. We went to a country bar and talked to a
few people. Any country song made before 1979 is a
classic. Period. No discussion. Anything popular is
not cool. There were more rules but they were so
arbitrary that I couldn't keep up.
It's very much like some on this board can be;
either you like x, y and z or you are not truly into prog
and any song released that may have become
popular means the band isn't really prog... etc. etc.
etc.
I know there are some into punk that have their
own set of exclusionary rules as to if you are truly
punk or not.
I know that hip hop is fairly rigid, either you
have "street cred" or you're a poser.
Yes, we are snobs but it's just like any other genre
of music... except our music doesn't suck.
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That's just what I was going to say, that snobbism
is certainly not limited to intellectuals or
connaisseurs of erudite music...truck drivers can be
snobs about their special little culture, jazz lovers too
(I'll never forget seeing John Zorn announcing a
song called "Jazz Snobs Eat sh*t"), opera lovers we
don't need to even discuss. Everyone thinks their
sub-cult or mass-cult is the best, techno-freaks,
punks, hip-hoppers, it's always "we know what's
really better". Which is just close-mindedness.
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Norbert
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Location: Hungary
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Posted: December 22 2005 at 07:20 |
I'm not a snob I just listen to much better music than other people.
I don't tell people :You are idiots because you know nothing about Van Der Graaf Generator.
I don't consider myself superior.If I am tolerant I can easier convince people that I listen to something good..
It's not snobistic to think that VDGG is much better than Robbie Williams, this is the unquestionable
truth.
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Rosescar
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Posted: December 22 2005 at 12:37 |
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I've found that most people listening to popular bullsh*t are the worst
snobs of them all, because they think their music is best and can't be
any further from the truth.
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FragileDT
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Posted: December 22 2005 at 12:49 |
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We are absolutely snobs when it comes to music but rightfully so.
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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Empathy
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Joined: June 30 2005
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Posted: December 22 2005 at 13:52 |
darren wrote:
I don't think prog has any more snobs than any other
genre of music. I have a friend who is really into country music and
country fans can be snobs. We went to a country bar and talked to
a few people. Any country song made before 1979 is a classic.
Period. No discussion. Anything popular is not cool. There were more
rules but they were so arbitrary that I couldn't keep up.
It's very much like some on this board can be; either you
like x, y and z or you are not truly into prog and any song released
that may have become popular means the band isn't really prog... etc.
etc. etc.
I know there are some into punk that have their own set of exclusionary rules as to if you are truly punk or not.
I know that hip hop is fairly rigid, either you have "street cred" or you're a poser.
Yes, we are snobs but it's just like any other genre of music... except our music doesn't suck.
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They have country bars in Canada? Wow.
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Pure Brilliance:
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troy
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Posted: December 22 2005 at 16:31 |
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It's best to be a snob without being a dick. It can be done.
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SUNSET IS AN ANGEL WEEPING
HOLDING OUT A BLOODY SWORD
NO MATTER HOW I SQUINT I CANNOT MAKE OUT WHAT IT IS POINTING TOWARD
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Norbert
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Posted: December 23 2005 at 01:53 |
Rosescar wrote:
I've found that most people listening to popular bullsh*t are the worst snobs of them all, because they think their music is best and can't be any further from the truth. |
I have some similar experiences.
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Eddy
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Posted: December 25 2005 at 00:29 |
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i have to say yes. i always wonder why people listen to such crappy
music. Alot of times i say direclty into people3s faces " why do you
listen to that sh*t?"
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KoS
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Posted: December 25 2005 at 01:59 |
Eddy wrote:
i have to say yes. i always wonder why people listen to such crappy
music. Alot of times i say direclty into people3s faces " why do you
listen to that sh*t?"
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same thoughts here
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Chicapah
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 13:48 |
I was reading through this thread and was reminded of the great line from "Broadcast News" and I paraphrase:
Network big shot - "It must be nice to think that you are smarter than everybody else in the room."
Holly Hunter - "No, it's hell."
I kinda feel that way about my prog music.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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walrus333
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 22:40 |
yes I am a snob in the sense that I look down upon music that is less comlex and such, I have no tolerance for punk etc. But to be honest I think its objectively FAR more snobbish if someone who listens to music with little to no artistic merit, looks down on me or anyone else who likes prog, jazz, classical etc. because we listen to "nerdy music."
At any rate Im trying to be less of a snob, and be more chill about others musical tastes
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If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks!
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clairvoyant
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Posted: March 17 2006 at 22:45 |
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I like prog, but I also love punk, and some metal, and a lot of plain old rock...
I notice a lot of people here really seem to hate anything that was slightly poppy from prog bands.
ie, Genesis, Yes...
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