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    Posted: December 22 2005 at 16:49

Greetings.

I'm about to rip all my great prog cds to digital format. What format do you recommend, and why? What software do you recommend?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2005 at 19:04
CD is a digital format . If you want another one, the one to use depends on what you want it for. If you're keeping it on your PC and have a very large amount of space - certainly in the 100s of GB (and aren't ever so bothered about compatibility with lots of things), I'd go for TTA or (more compatible) FLAC. If you don't have so much space I'd go for Musepack or ogg or (more compatible) MP3 (encoded by LAME). If you're putting it on a portable DAP then you might well be tied to whatever format it supports.


However, for any of the formats I've mentioned, you can use http://members.home.nl/w.speek/multi.htm plus a small .exe in the same folder (ttaenc.exe for TTA, flac.exe for FLAC, mppenc.exe for Musepack, oggenc.exe for ogg, or lame.exe for MP3, NB it might take a little trawling around the web for these, although I can get links if you want any in particular) All of these formats should play in Windows Media Player, although I've never tried with TTA or Musepack.


I guess there's always WMA and AAC, but installing a full media library/player is a bit of a waste of space if all you want to do is encode...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2005 at 19:18
you are a geek goose

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2005 at 21:37
Thanks for advice!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2005 at 21:47
FLAC is lossless audio, it's CD quality but about half the size of wav compression on a CD.  (about 300 MB for a full CD)  If you don't really care about having the best sound quality possible, you probably want to rip it in either OGG or MP3, definitely with a bitrate above 192 kbps.  It all depends if you want these files to be read on an MP3 player or intend them to be.  A program that allows you to rip your CDs into any format is DBPowerAmp and I highly reccomend it, it's free as well.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2005 at 23:52
Originally posted by kirklott kirklott wrote:

Greetings.

I'm about to rip all my great prog cds to digital format. What format do you recommend, and why? What software do you recommend?

 

Well if you want exact copies,burn the files into WAV format. But they take up alot of hard drive space.

 

If you want to store alot of songs on your computer,burn MP3's.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2005 at 10:46
The best format in digital today stays the classic CD, over SACD and DVD Audio.
Compressed audio formats is crap.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2005 at 11:52

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

CD is a digital format . If you want another one, the one to use depends on what you want it for. If you're keeping it on your PC and have a very large amount of space - certainly in the 100s of GB (and aren't ever so bothered about compatibility with lots of things), I'd go for TTA or (more compatible) FLAC. If you don't have so much space I'd go for Musepack or ogg or (more compatible) MP3 (encoded by LAME). If you're putting it on a portable DAP then you might well be tied to whatever format it supports.


However, for any of the formats I've mentioned, you can use http://members.home.nl/w.speek/multi.htm plus a small .exe in the same folder (ttaenc.exe for TTA, flac.exe for FLAC, mppenc.exe for Musepack, oggenc.exe for ogg, or lame.exe for MP3, NB it might take a little trawling around the web for these, although I can get links if you want any in particular) All of these formats should play in Windows Media Player, although I've never tried with TTA or Musepack.


I guess there's always WMA and AAC, but installing a full media library/player is a bit of a waste of space if all you want to do is encode...

WMA Lossless is still my favorite ... if you're using the Windows Media Player, it will automatically convert the data to a compressed format if you want to transfer it to a mobile player.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2005 at 17:24

Thanks for the advice.

The ultimate goal is to rip my entire collection, and not have to bother with CDs anymore. But I want to rip it at high quality, and in a format that will be valid and useful for as long as possible.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2005 at 04:39
Originally posted by kirklott kirklott wrote:

Thanks for the advice.

The ultimate goal is to rip my entire collection, and not have to bother with CDs anymore. But I want to rip it at high quality, and in a format that will be valid and useful for as long as possible.

You should definitely go for a lossless format. Which one you use depends solely on which media player you prefer ... the audio quality is exactly the same for all the formats, as it is an exact copy of the data on the CD:

  • iTunes: Apple Lossless.
  • Windows Media Player: WMA Lossless
  • Generic Players: Use CDex to rip CDs, it supports FLAC, a free Lossless format.

Important: When ripping, make sure that the ripping software rips digitally and uses error correction and detection. In CDex it's called "ripping mode full paranoia", and in WMP you just have to check "error correction" in the drive settings. If you don't do that, you risk that CDs with scratches will result in dropouts in the ripped files.

Apart from sounding best, the other big advantage of the Lossless formats is that any other format can be created from them easily. For instance, the WMP can create mp3 from WMA Lossless on the fly when transfering audio to mobile devices.

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